[NAGDU] Some Questions About Guiding Eyes

Tue Jul 30 23:39:58 UTC 2019

Ok I get it. Thanks for the explanation Tracy. I don't think any of my
dogs did this per se.
Lisa, I'm with you I see no problems with this. I'm not always good at
it with a cane.
Thanks Julie, I was talking to a recent grad today and he mentioned
the paperwork that needs to be completed. No problem! and thanks for
answering about the visits. I do like that. It says alot about the
school's trust in there dogs and human partners. And I have never had
a problem recognizing when to call for help.
Thanks Mary! How have you been?
Hey Raven, I wondered if you were still here. Thanks for the
information. Nope not bothersome to me at all. I am happy to know they
will help with new routes because next year at this time I will be
moving to a new Apartment complex.
Milissa, thanks for the candid overview. I'm not big on strictly food
rewards either but I want to be fair and give it a try since we
treated at my previous school but it was not overemphasized just for
targeting new behaviors and we gradually fazed it out. I wish they
gave ownership but alas, they don't and that is something I willl have
to contend with should all go well.

So, my questions for today. I saw on the website that average food
costs are $80 to $100 per month. What do they feed and recommend? And,
lastly, what comes with the dog when you graduate?
Oh, and, what should I expect during the home interview? Thanks you
guys for your patience and candor!

On 7/30/19, Dan Weiner via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I don't doubt it, Jordan. I've seen some really weird reasons that
> schools are giving people now for rejecting them, not talking about you,
> or not talking about GEB per se. things like "too much construction in
> your neighborhood"... "applicant is accompanied too much to give dog a
> chance for viable work" (blind people shouldn't have any
> friends???--lol...or... "does not follow instructional protocol"  ones
> that have been read to me by friends...i ask myself whether schools just
> don't like certain people or things about them and just will find any
> reason or cloak their reasons in gibberish.
>
> And now, remember I'm not referring to any one school I can site at
> least four schools I heard of this stuff from...
>
>
> Cordially,
>
> Dan the man with Parker the nut
>
>
> On 7/30/2019 2:10 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU wrote:
>> The letter that I received denying my application stated that they do not
>> like their dogs doing complicated and complex crossings
>> Jordan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Mary Metzger via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My first three dogs came from Guiding Eyes, and I still know many current
>>> graduates.  Many of these graduates live or work in large cities and
>>> regularly navigate complex crossings.
>>>
>>> Mary Beth Metzger
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
>>> via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:34 PM
>>> To: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Some Questions About Guiding Eyes
>>>
>>> Tracey, this is what I thought backtracking was, too.?? I've also heard
>>> it
>>> called reversing a route, i.e. you go someplace using mostly right turns
>>> and
>>> the route back uses left turns.?? Some dogs find it boring, especially
>>> ones
>>> with more initiative.?? Still, there are times when this is the way I
>>> want
>>> to go.?? It could be for safety reasons such as construction work or me
>>> just
>>> being too hot/tired.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't want a school telling me this is something I shouldn't be
>>> doing
>>> with my dogs.?? IMO if someone doesn't use backtracking often there's no
>>> harm in doing it occasionally.?????? I'd be interested to hear GEB's
>>> reasoning for this policy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>
>>>> On 7/30/2019 12:19 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>>>> What I call backtracking is when the dog can reverse a path, without
>>>> too much input from me.  I had one dog who was really good at it.  If
>>>> we'd go hiking, say, then decide after a while we wanted to go back
>>>> the way we'd come, I'd turn her around, tell her Forward, and she'd
>>>> remember where we turned and go back to where we started.  Pretty
>>>> handy.  But not all dogs can do it well.  For me, it's a nice extra, but
>>> by no means a must-have.
>>>> Others may feel differently.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, what do you mean by backtracking?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/29/19, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>  From what I was told when I had my home visit from Guiding Eyes,
>>>>>> they do have mandatory follow ups, and the following is what ended
>>>>>> up me taking them off the list.  They absolutely do not want you
>>>>>> doing any back tracking nor do they want their dogs doing anything
>>>>>> but really simple street crossings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jordan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet
>>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 9:48 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Cc: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Some Questions About Guiding Eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey yall,
>>>>>> I am considering strongly putting in my application for Guiding Eyes.
>>>>>> How long do retrains have to stay? And, do they have mandatory
>>>>>> yearly followup visits? That's all for now, but do share your
>>>>>> experiences with the school for training and after you and your dog
>>>>>> have been working for awhile.
>>>>>> Positives? Negatives? Thanks you guys!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I met a Guiding Eyes dog and was very impressed with the
>>>>>> responsiveness even when not in harness. I prefer my dogs to be
>>>>>> seroius when working and not be easily distracted. This was a dog
>>>>>> fresh out of training and all of 2 years old.
>>>>>>
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How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
have been all of these.
George Washington Carver
Email: singingmywayin at gmail.com