[NAGDU] EU/Switzerlan dog acceptance, and, international rabies travel booster shots

Fri Jun 14 20:58:35 UTC 2019

Dan, 

Yes, correct, Switzerland isn’t in the EU.  But that doesn’t seem to matter.  They were fine for entry.  

This was trip number two in the past few years to Europe.  The first time, we landed in Amsterdam.  This time, Zurich.  Other border crossings within Europe were casual, or nothing at all since it is now mostly EU members.  On a train down into Italy, for example, there was an announcement that border agents would come through for passports.  Yup, a couple of guys did walk through, but that’s all they did…walk through!  

Experience so far is that any real hubbub is from the U.S., through the USDA.  It seems that the rest of whom we’ve seen so far are more civilized and dog friendly.  If they meet you at all when you land, it’s because you had to declare something special on the way in over there.  Otherwise, you get, as you walk through, hey what a great dog, welcome, have a nice visit, bye bye.   

Here, you go to not just a vet, but specifically a USDA endorsed one, for which you’ll pay added fees.  There is one amongst the large staff of our vet clinic, so we see him for this.  They will do the health cert and make sure rabies is up to date, and get at least two copies of the rabies certificate (one of them, embossed), with the third party vet health certificate.  Make sure you have duplicate everything.  Then you make an appointment and travel to a USDA APHIS office, where they look at the papers, and stamp them (called endorsing), to say essentially, that yes, they are papers from a vet…and now are officially USDA endorsed.  Then off you go.  

Another country may ask to look at papers, but usually just a quick glance at a rabies cert if anything at all.  This business is mostly for re-entering the U.S.  The first time home, we stopped at USDA within customs, where they gave us a friendly rectoscopy, going through everything in fine detail.  It took half an hour.  This time however, in Philadelphia there was just one guy at a counter, who only glanced at a current rabies certificate and we were done.  Hey you know the drill, if you put up your tarp, it won’t rain.  Get the paperwork!

Ok,  that all was for main Europe, not UK countries and Sweden who have stricter entry requirements. The deal with countries that are islands is they may not have had rabies before.  So they are very strict about boosters.  Be careful, this can get you overvaccinated.  So any of you guys planning for travel, do think ahead.  For UK countries (England, Ireland and Scotland), our current three year rabies booster is sufficient.  But, it must also be accompanied by a vet’s entire rabies booster history, all the way back to puppy’s first shot.  If there has -ever- been a lapse of a rabies shot due date - in the dog’s entire history - even a booster due date lapse of just one day - then a full booster must be given, within one year before entering that country.  Several weeks may have to pass between this new shot and entering the country, so that they consider that it has taken effect.  This is regardless whether you are currently within your good three year booster period.  So lets say, that a year an a month ago, you did your three year booster.  If your pup ever missed a shot in it’s past, even by one day, then you must vaccinate again.  This then gives you one year to be current for entry into that country, including the time you’ll spend there. 

We have researched enough to learn that most of the time (or more), our dogs’s original puppy shots are still be measured by titer tests to be providing current immunity sufficiency.  So we do not over vaccinate them.  The array of boosters, in other words, that most dogs get after the original series, appear to be unnecessary, provided that titer tests do show currently sufficient immunity.  Dogs really do seem need to get shots in the beginning as puppies, to keep them safe from diseases to which they can be exposed.  But then, they may have lifelong immunity.  There are exceptions, such as water or fecal-borne diseases for which they may still need a booster because those pathogens change over time and they may not be protected from the new ones.  Talk to your vet, and find out whether they are level headed researchers who will weigh data, or shot marketers.  Our research on over-vaccinating points to long term health concerns.  So we spend whatever money necessary on titer tests.  And at age 9, we have gotten answers all the way through so far, that immune antibody levels are fully current, so no further vaccinations have been necessary.  Here in California, however, there is no getting around a rabies booster every three years, even if you drop the thousand bucks for a rabies titer test and it shows perfect immunity.  You still are required to do the shot.  So we do that one.  

I believe that we have never lapsed a rabies period for a booster.  So in theory, for the UK, within any three year period after a rabies booster shot, we could go to a UK country.  But rules change, and so do interpretations of individuals, such as that one, officious officer who was having a bad day, that you might run into on your next trip.  How this applies to UK, Sweden, and anywhere else with strict rabies rules is, we will only visit one of those countries during the period within the first year of a current rabies shot, even though our shot is a three year dose.  That keeps us safe from foibles on entry, and clearly within the period that a shot had to be given if they have any issues anyway.  

As long as we are on this, if any of you need a reminder of the little nasty bits we can encounter, ADI has cut a deal with the UK.  Only dogs from schools affiliated with ADI get into UK countries.  Other service dogs can enter, but if trained with a non-ADI school, or self-trained, you will have to buck up and pay a (quote), special handling fee unquote, of 800 British Pounds per dog on entry.  

Happy travels all!
Peter

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> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:34:57 -0400
> From: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
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> Fascinating cultural notes and descriptions, thank you so much for 
> sharing this with yous. would love to hear from you more about your travels.
> 
> 
> Now since I believe Switzerland is not? in the EU and Italy is, was 
> there any difference in documentation and paperwork for your entry in to 
> those countries?
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> Dan W.
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> On 6/13/2019 9:18 PM, Peter Wolf via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hey all, one more thing for info.  Just back from 3 and a half weeks in Europe, I can update info here.
>> 
>> First, in Switzerland, they have only one classification for service dogs, seeing eye.  No other categories are recognized.  And they want to see a certification card.  A Swiss one, not someone else?s.  However, once explained that we were visiting, and explaining the use of the dog verbally in German (bindenhund), and/or holding up my cane to relate, it worked to show the card from our school, and simply explain that we were visiting.  They also recognize guide dogs in training just like working guides.
>> 
>>  It was also interesting, that, since Andrea?s service dog is not about vision, that it still worked out once Metukah and I were addressed.  We immediately found ourselves concerned about this, because we were already there!  Interestingly, we would simply disclose what our dogs do, then the train conductors and other officials would expain the rules, then almost always say something like, ?but it is perfectly fine with me? and wish us a good time, whatever it was we were doing.  We appreciated that, because at first we were very concerned for Andrea and Kira.
>> 
>> There?s a reason why people sometimes say something runs smoothly like a Swiss watch?in Swiss culture the watch metaphor is no accident, not for anything!  We found that we loved this about Switzerland.  Amidst such precision as a societal context, there is a wonderful feeling of relaxation actually.  Everything runs on time, is wonderfully clean, and it seems like there isn?t a hurry going on. Adrenaline doesn?t seem such an everyday thing there.  We really enjoyed being there and it made it all the more pleasant meeting people.
>> 
>> Then Italy, oh Italy.  Italy was interesting in this regard.  They have only one category also, seeing eye.  But Italy is a multifaceted festival of seeming randomness, and chaos, even when there are rules, schedules or expectations.  Italy is a party.  No matter where we went, we got hit with a lot of heat and crap right up front, no dogs, no dogs, sorry (not sorry), no dogs!  But then, asking in Italian how to describe us, I learned an alarming phrase, the one that is specifically used for guide dogs.  The term is Cane (pronounced cahn-neh), di Invalida.  What a sucky phrase.  In language translation, you literally have to tell someone that this is a dog for a person who is an invalid, and point to your cane or yourself.  But this, in Italian, is specifically what they call a guide dog!  That took time to get used to, which I never did, because if we learn the leve of self-mastery that it takes to work in the world without the dominant sense of vision, that is one very capable person.
>> 
>> Then it gets interesting.  Say, you walk into a ruin or a museum.  You get hit with the no-dog, no-dog challenge.  In Italian, you meet them, get in a conversation, and identify the dog.  Everyone pauses a moment, they confer, and then everything warms.  The doors open, all smiles, and they won?t accept your money for the ticket, no matter what you say.  It?s weird, especially for those of us who don?t wish for special treatment.  It?s a gauntlet.  You have to prepare to get bounced off the door, or get the boot if you?ve walked in already.  You meet and greet, and then it?s all love.  And everyone in that moment was always so in the festival of it at that moment, that they just welcomed Andrea and Kira also, alaying our similar concern.   The dynamic was bizarre and wonderful in how the heart came through.  Gotta love this about Italy.
>> 
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>>>      failing to keep up with the rise of assistance animals (Tara Briggs)
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>>>      failing to keep up with the rise of assistance animals
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>>> Tonight there was an hour long analysis of the practices and laws on disability assistance animals in Australia.  The wording of the laws mirror the Fair Housing Act and you can see similar issues and different proposals for reform: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/australia-s-laws-failing-to-keep-up-with-the-rise-of-assistance-animals
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>>> Thank you for sharing this Paul. I am beginning to wonder if this is a good idea. For those who haven?t read the article, it basically argues for some type of certification essentially saying you need to have a drivers license type of ID card to have a service dog. I guess In an ideal world, businesses would kick out the wild pets. But I think that most businesses are too scared to do that. My two concerns are these I want owner trainers who have well-trained and well behaved service dogs to have the same rights of access as anybody else. And there are dogs that are trained by fantastic schools that turn into heathens once their owners get them home. How do we handle that?
>>> Tara
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Paul Harpur via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tonight there was an hour long analysis of the practices and laws on disability assistance animals in Australia.  The wording of the laws mirror the Fair Housing Act and you can see similar issues and different proposals for reform: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/australia-s-laws-failing-to-keep-up-with-the-rise-of-assistance-animals
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>>>> 
>>>> Dr Paul Harpur
>>>> BBus (HRm), LLB (Hons) LLM, PhD, solicitor of the High Court of Australia (non-practicing)
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>>> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 08:47:54 -0400
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
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>>> It's my understanding that, at least for guide dogs, it's different in Australia, the UK, and lots of other countries, than it is here in the US.  There's only one guide dog school there, with several branches.  I'm not sure owner-trained dogs are "legal".  It seems to me that the guide dog school clamps down hard on any competition.  So, for guide dogs, the school would issue an ID, and that would be that.
>>> I'd really like to know if my understanding is correct.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] National TV and on-line on demand: Australia's laws failing to keep up with the rise of assistance animals
>>> 
>>> Thank you for sharing this Paul. I am beginning to wonder if this is a good idea. For those who haven?t read the article, it basically argues for some type of certification essentially saying you need to have a drivers license type of ID card to have a service dog. I guess In an ideal world, businesses would kick out the wild pets. But I think that most businesses are too scared to do that. My two concerns are these I want owner trainers who have well-trained and well behaved service dogs to have the same rights of access as anybody else. And there are dogs that are trained by fantastic schools that turn into heathens once their owners get them home. How do we handle that?
>>> Tara
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Paul Harpur via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tonight there was an hour long analysis of the practices and laws on disability assistance animals in Australia.  The wording of the laws mirror the Fair Housing Act and you can see similar issues and different proposals for reform: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/australia-s-laws-failing-to-keep-up-with-the-rise-of-assistance-animals
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dr Paul Harpur
>>>> BBus (HRm), LLB (Hons) LLM, PhD, solicitor of the High Court of Australia (non-practicing)
>>>> Fulbright Future Scholar<https://www.fulbright.org.au/current-scholars/>/International Distinguished Fellow<https://www.google.com.au/search?source=hp&ei=dosPXJDEFdO89QOTu47IDw&q=burton+blatt+institute+harpur&btnK=Google+Search&oq=burton+blatt+institute+harpur&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160l2.1230.4556..4826...0.0..1.294.6039.0j15j14......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0j35i39j0i131j0i22i30j0i22i10i30.B7g_g7X_Ck4>, Burton Blatt Institute, SU, New York.
>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>> 
>>>> TC Beirne School of Law
>>>> The University of Queensland
>>>> Brisbane Qld 4072 Australia
>>>> 
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:00:09 +1200
>>> From: "Bonnie Mosen" <bonnie at mosen.org>
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] National TV and on-line on demand: Australia's
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>>> Hi Tracy and others. I can't speak for Australia, but I can tell you how it works here in NZ.
>>> I moved here six years ago with my then 6-yo black Lab, Lizzie from The Seeing Eye.
>>> In February, I trained with my current dog, Eclipse, at TSE.
>>> NZ does have a small school which is a member of the International Guide Dog Federation.
>>> Any guide dog, whether it be owner trained or from a standard school has to be certified to work in NZ by the NZ guide dog school.
>>> This also allows follow-up from an NZ guide dog trainer as follow-up from a US school isn't possible.
>>> My understanding this is the case for all other service dogs. They have to be certified by whatever school here in NZ would train that sort of dog.
>>>> From what I have heard, emotional support animals just aren't really recognized here.
>>> Thankfully, we don't have the issue of fake service animals yet, and I'm hoping our strict certification is the reason why.
>>> Eclipse wears a medallion from the NZ school, but I have never been challenged on her legitimacy as a service animal.
>>> I do have to have a follow-up annually with a guide dog instructor here, and I can get assistance with learning new routes or with training issues.
>>> They have been very accepting of my decision to continue to train with dogs from the US, and I don't feel I have been treated any different.
>>> Cheers
>>> Bonnie and Eclipse
>>> I know of one owner trainer here, and that person did have to have their dog certified by the guide dog school.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] National TV and on-line on demand: Australia's laws failing to keep up with the rise of assistance animals
>>> 
>>> It's my understanding that, at least for guide dogs, it's different in Australia, the UK, and lots of other countries, than it is here in the US.  There's only one guide dog school there, with several branches.  I'm not sure owner-trained dogs are "legal".  It seems to me that the guide dog school clamps down hard on any competition.  So, for guide dogs, the school would issue an ID, and that would be that.
>>> I'd really like to know if my understanding is correct.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara Briggs via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 8:37 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Tara Briggs
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] National TV and on-line on demand: Australia's laws failing to keep up with the rise of assistance animals
>>> 
>>> Thank you for sharing this Paul. I am beginning to wonder if this is a good idea. For those who haven?t read the article, it basically argues for some type of certification essentially saying you need to have a drivers license type of ID card to have a service dog. I guess In an ideal world, businesses would kick out the wild pets. But I think that most businesses are too scared to do that. My two concerns are these I want owner trainers who have well-trained and well behaved service dogs to have the same rights of access as anybody else. And there are dogs that are trained by fantastic schools that turn into heathens once their owners get them home. How do we handle that?
>>> Tara
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Paul Harpur via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tonight there was an hour long analysis of the practices and laws on
>>>> disability assistance animals in Australia.  The wording of the laws
>>>> mirror the Fair Housing Act and you can see similar issues and
>>>> different proposals for reform:
>>>> https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/australia-s-laws-failing-to-keep-u
>>>> p-with-the-rise-of-assistance-animals
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dr Paul Harpur
>>>> BBus (HRm), LLB (Hons) LLM, PhD, solicitor of the High Court of
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>>>> The University of Queensland
>>>> Brisbane Qld 4072 Australia
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