[NAGDU] Convention

Susan Jones sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jun 29 01:15:19 UTC 2019 

Good evening, listers,

At the moment, I'm between dogs, and will be taking my cane (and a couple of backup canes) to convention.

My recommendation is that you put a bell or something that makes a bit of nois on your dog's harness.
This helps people hear you coming, and will save your dog a few cane gouges.

Most dogs get pretty good at dodging canes, but if they haven't been around blind people much, it may take a day or two until they get the idea.

Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via NAGDU
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 3:59 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Julie McGinnity
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Convention

Hi Marie,

I agree with what has been said here thus far.  Try to pay attention
for signs that your dog is getting stressed out.  My dog needs a break
about half way through the convention, which means I need to let him
chill out in the room with a friend if I have a meeting to attend.  He
just needs to rest.

Also, give your dog more time to relieve than you might ordinarily.
Some dogs don't like the relief areas and may try to trick you into
taking them somewhere else.  My current dog does this, and my solution
needs not to be to just take him inside.  Too much stress inside to
take that risk.  Dogs do have accidents at convention every year, and
it's terribly embarrassing when it could have been prevented.

Stay upbeat and possitive with your dog.  Reward him or her for
getting you around canes and other dogs.  Give lots of praise.  Both
of my dogs have considered cane dodging a game, and they have enjoyed
convention over all.

I believe that NAGDU has a mentoring program for first time attendees
who have guide dogs.  Maybe someone can point Marie towards this
program.

Julie


On 6/28/19, David Andrews via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Yes, on the globe 195 again.
>
> Dave
>
> At 02:05 PM 6/28/2019, you wrote:
>>Will NFB be broadcasting on tunein? Sunshine
>>Sent from my iPhone XR > On Jun 28, 2019, at
>>10:22 AM, sheila.leigland--- via NAGDU
>><nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > hi, michael have
>>any arrangements been made about getting dog
>>food delivered to the national convention or is
>>there even a way to do that? thanks much. > >>
>>On 6/15/2019 7:04 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>wrote: >> Download the agenda from the NFB.org
>>convention web page. Descriptions of relieving
>>locations are included. >> >> >> Best
>>Regards, >> >> >> Michael Hingson >> >>
>>-----Original Message----- >> From: Martine Abel
>><martine.the1 at xtra.co.nz> >> Sent: Saturday,
>>June 15, 2019 5:32 PM >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing
>>List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> Cc:
>>mike at michaelhingson.com; 'Marie Villaneda'
>><Marie.JV at outlook.com> >> Subject: RE: [NAGDU]
>>Convention >> >> Hi all, what's the set up at
>>Convention re where we ccan (as you Americans
>>call it) park our dogs? >> Cheers >>
>>Martine >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>
>>From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Mike Hingson via NAGDU >> Sent:
>>Sunday, 16 June 2019 9:22 a.m. >> To: 'NAGDU
>>Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> Cc:
>>mike at michaelhingson.com; 'Marie Villaneda'
>><Marie.JV at outlook.com> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU]
>>Convention >> >> Hi, >> >> Lots of thoughts.
>>First and foremost, give extra praise regularly
>>while you are at the convention with your guide.
>>There will be lots and lots of people who will
>>not be paying as good attention as they should
>>while they travel. They will bump into you and
>>your dog. You need to remain calm and encourage
>>your guide, not become fearful, angry or upset.
>>Your dog is looking to you always for
>>support. >> >> For many years I did not take a
>>guide dog to our National conventions due to the
>>poor travel skills of others at the convention.
>>Many years ago, however, I changed my opinion
>>and began taking guide dogs to the conventions.
>>Perhaps it was my experiences at the World Trade
>>Center on September 11, but I realized that
>>praise, encouragement and support for my dogs
>>kept them focused and working successfully. You
>>keep following all the lessons you learned when
>>you got your guide and you keep encouraging good
>>guide work and all will go well. >> >> >> Best
>>Regards, >> >> >> Michael Hingson >> Vice
>>president, NAGDU >> The Michael Hingson Group,
>>INC. >> "Speaking with Vision" >> Michael
>>Hingson, President >> (415) 827-4084 >>
>>info at michaelhingson.com >> To order Michael
>>Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and
>>check on Michael Hingson's speaking availability
>>for your next event please visit: >>
>>www.michaelhingson.com >>  To purchase your own
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>>http://www.ronburns.com/roselle >> >>
>>-----Original Message----- >> From: NAGDU
>><nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Marie
>>Villaneda via NAGDU >> Sent: Saturday, June 15,
>>2019 12:25 PM >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org >> Cc:
>>Marie Villaneda <Marie.JV at outlook.com> >>
>>Subject: [NAGDU] Convention >> >> Any general
>>tips for convention with a dog? I’m not new to
>>traveling, and think I have a general idea of
>>things but wanted to see if anyone has anything
>>to say on the matter >> >> Sent from my
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>>"nagdu-request at nfbnet.org"
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>>acceptance, and, international
>>rabies >>>      travel booster shots (Peter
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>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019
>>13:58:35 -0700 >>> From: Peter Wolf
>><pwolf1 at wolfskills.com> >>> To:
>>nagdu at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [NAGDU]
>>EU/Switzerlan dog acceptance, and,
>>international >>>    rabies travel booster
>>shots >>> Message-ID:
>><4CF39D7A-FD5C-4C46-AA4D-0A2B6FD68039 at wolfskills.com>
>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Dan, >>> >>> Yes, correct,
>>Switzerland isn?t in the EU.  But that doesn?t
>>seem to matter.  They were fine for
>>entry. >>> >>> This was trip number two in the
>>past few years to Europe.  The first time, we
>>landed in Amsterdam.  This time, Zurich.  Other
>>border crossings within Europe were casual, or
>>nothing at all since it is now mostly EU
>>members.  On a train down into Italy, for
>>example, there was an announcement that border
>>agents would come through for passports.  Yup, a
>>couple of guys did walk through, but that?s all
>>they did?walk through! >>> >>> Experience so far
>>is that any real hubbub is from the U.S.,
>>through the USDA.  It seems that the rest of
>>whom we?ve seen so far are more civilized and
>>dog friendly.  If they meet you at all when you
>>land, it?s because you had to declare something
>>special on the way in over there.  Otherwise,
>>you get, as you walk through, hey what a great
>>dog, welcome, have a nice visit, bye
>>bye. >>> >>> Here, you go to not just a vet, but
>>specifically a USDA endorsed one, for which
>>you?ll pay added fees.  There is one amongst the
>>large staff of our vet clinic, so we see him for
>>this.  They will do the health cert and make
>>sure rabies is up to date, and get at least two
>>copies of the rabies certificate (one of them,
>>embossed), with the third party vet health
>>certificate.  Make sure you have duplicate
>>everything.  Then you make an appointment and
>>travel to a USDA APHIS office, where they look
>>at the papers, and stamp them (called
>>endorsing), to say essentially, that yes, they
>>are papers from a vet?and now are officially
>>USDA endorsed.  Then off you go. >>> >>> Another
>>country may ask to look at papers, but usually
>>just a quick glance at a rabies cert if anything
>>at all.  This business is mostly for re-entering
>>the U.S.  The first time home, we stopped at
>>USDA within customs, where they gave us a
>>friendly rectoscopy, going through everything in
>>fine detail.  It took half an hour.  This time
>>however, in Philadelphia there was just one guy
>>at a counter, who only glanced at a current
>>rabies certificate and we were done.  Hey you
>>know the drill, if you put up your tarp, it
>>won?t rain.  Get the paperwork! >>> >>>
>>Ok,  that all was for main Europe, not UK
>>countries and Sweden who have stricter entry
>>requirements. The deal with countries that are
>>islands is they may not have had rabies
>>before.  So they are very strict about
>>boosters.  Be careful, this can get you
>>overvaccinated.  So any of you guys planning for
>>travel, do think ahead.  For UK countries
>>(England, Ireland and Scotland), our current
>>three year rabies booster is sufficient.  But,
>>it must also be accompanied by a vet?s entire
>>rabies booster history, all the way back to
>>puppy?s first shot.  If there has -ever- been a
>>lapse of a rabies shot due date - in the dog?s
>>entire history - even a booster due date lapse
>>of just one day - then a full booster must be
>>given, within one year before entering that
>>country.  Several weeks may have to pass between
>>this new shot and entering the country, so that
>>they consider that it has taken effect.  This is
>>regardless whether you are currently within your
>>good three year booster period.  So lets say,
>>that a year an a month ago, you did your three
>>year booster.  If your pup ever missed a shot in
>>it?s past, even by one day, then you must
>>vaccinate again.  This then gives you one year
>>to be current for entry into that country,
>>including the time you?ll spend there. >>> >>>
>>We have researched enough to learn that most of
>>the time (or more), our dogs?s original puppy
>>shots are still be measured by titer tests to be
>>providing current immunity sufficiency.  So we
>>do not over vaccinate them.  The array of
>>boosters, in other words, that most dogs get
>>after the original series, appear to be
>>unnecessary, provided that titer tests do show
>>currently sufficient immunity.  Dogs really do
>>seem need to get shots in the beginning as
>>puppies, to keep them safe from diseases to
>>which they can be exposed.  But then, they may
>>have lifelong immunity.  There are exceptions,
>>such as water or fecal-borne diseases for which
>>they may still need a booster because those
>>pathogens change over time and they may not be
>>protected from the new ones.  Talk to your vet,
>>and find out whether they are level headed
>>researchers who will weigh data, or shot
>>marketers.  Our research on over-vaccinating
>>points to long term health concerns.  So we
>>spend whatever money necessary on titer
>>tests.  And at age 9, we have gotten answers all
>>the way through so far, that immune antibody
>>levels are fully current, so no further
>>vaccinations have been necessary.  Here in
>>California, however, there is no getting around
>>a rabies booster every three years, even if you
>>drop the thousand bucks for a rabies titer test
>>and it shows perfect immunity.  You still are
>>required to do the shot.  So we do that
>>one. >>> >>> I believe that we have never lapsed
>>a rabies period for a booster.  So in theory,
>>for the UK, within any three year period after a
>>rabies booster shot, we could go to a UK
>>country.  But rules change, and so do
>>interpretations of individuals, such as that
>>one, officious officer who was having a bad day,
>>that you might run into on your next trip.  How
>>this applies to UK, Sweden, and anywhere else
>>with strict rabies rules is, we will only visit
>>one of those countries during the period within
>>the first year of a current rabies shot, even
>>though our shot is a three year dose.  That
>>keeps us safe from foibles on entry, and clearly
>>within the period that a shot had to be given if
>>they have any issues anyway. >>> >>> As long as
>>we are on this, if any of you need a reminder of
>>the little nasty bits we can encounter, ADI has
>>cut a deal with the UK.  Only dogs from schools
>>affiliated with ADI get into UK
>>countries.  Other service dogs can enter, but if
>>trained with a non-ADI school, or self-trained,
>>you will have to buck up and pay a (quote),
>>special handling fee unquote, of 800 British
>>Pounds per dog on entry. >>> >>> Happy travels
>>all! >>> Peter >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at
>>5:00 AM, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >>>> >>>>
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-- 
Julie A. McGinnity
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
Blind Performing Arts Division; First Vice President, National
Federation of the Blind of Missouri

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