[NAGDU] Convention
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Sat Jun 29 03:08:23 UTC 2019
When I had my dog at conventions, it was helpful for him even if I just went back to the room at some point during the day and played with him for a bit or let him relax and get away from everything for a little while.
Charlene
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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via NAGDU
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 2:59 PM
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Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Convention
Hi Marie,
I agree with what has been said here thus far. Try to pay attention for signs that your dog is getting stressed out. My dog needs a break about half way through the convention, which means I need to let him chill out in the room with a friend if I have a meeting to attend. He just needs to rest.
Also, give your dog more time to relieve than you might ordinarily.
Some dogs don't like the relief areas and may try to trick you into taking them somewhere else. My current dog does this, and my solution needs not to be to just take him inside. Too much stress inside to take that risk. Dogs do have accidents at convention every year, and it's terribly embarrassing when it could have been prevented.
Stay upbeat and possitive with your dog. Reward him or her for getting you around canes and other dogs. Give lots of praise. Both of my dogs have considered cane dodging a game, and they have enjoyed convention over all.
I believe that NAGDU has a mentoring program for first time attendees who have guide dogs. Maybe someone can point Marie towards this program.
Julie
On 6/28/19, David Andrews via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Yes, on the globe 195 again.
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> Dave
>
> At 02:05 PM 6/28/2019, you wrote:
>>Will NFB be broadcasting on tunein? Sunshine Sent from my iPhone XR >
>>On Jun 28, 2019, at
>>10:22 AM, sheila.leigland--- via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >
>>hi, michael have any arrangements been made about getting dog food
>>delivered to the national convention or is there even a way to do
>>that? thanks much. > >> On 6/15/2019 7:04 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>wrote: >> Download the agenda from the NFB.org convention web page.
>>Descriptions of relieving locations are included. >> >> >> Best
>>Regards, >> >> >> Michael Hingson >> >> -----Original Message----- >>
>>From: Martine Abel <martine.the1 at xtra.co.nz> >> Sent: Saturday, June
>>15, 2019 5:32 PM >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association
>>of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> Cc:
>>mike at michaelhingson.com; 'Marie Villaneda'
>><Marie.JV at outlook.com> >> Subject: RE: [NAGDU] Convention >> >> Hi
>>all, what's the set up at Convention re where we ccan (as you
>>Americans call it) park our dogs? >> Cheers >> Martine >> >> >>
>>-----Original Message----- >>
>>From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>>Hingson via NAGDU >> Sent:
>>Sunday, 16 June 2019 9:22 a.m. >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the
>>National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> Cc:
>>mike at michaelhingson.com; 'Marie Villaneda'
>><Marie.JV at outlook.com> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Convention >> >> Hi, >>
>>>> Lots of thoughts.
>>First and foremost, give extra praise regularly while you are at the
>>convention with your guide.
>>There will be lots and lots of people who will not be paying as good
>>attention as they should while they travel. They will bump into you
>>and your dog. You need to remain calm and encourage your guide, not
>>become fearful, angry or upset.
>>Your dog is looking to you always for
>>support. >> >> For many years I did not take a guide dog to our
>>National conventions due to the poor travel skills of others at the
>>convention.
>>Many years ago, however, I changed my opinion and began taking guide
>>dogs to the conventions.
>>Perhaps it was my experiences at the World Trade Center on September
>>11, but I realized that praise, encouragement and support for my dogs
>>kept them focused and working successfully. You keep following all the
>>lessons you learned when you got your guide and you keep encouraging
>>good guide work and all will go well. >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >>
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>>From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Marie Villaneda
>>via NAGDU >> Sent: Saturday, June 15,
>>2019 12:25 PM >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org >> Cc:
>>Marie Villaneda <Marie.JV at outlook.com> >>
>>Subject: [NAGDU] Convention >> >> Any general tips for convention with
>>a dog? I’m not new to traveling, and think I have a general idea of
>>things but wanted to see if anyone has anything to say on the matter
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>>rabies >>> travel booster shots (Peter
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>> >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019
>>13:58:35 -0700 >>> From: Peter Wolf
>><pwolf1 at wolfskills.com> >>> To:
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>>EU/Switzerlan dog acceptance, and,
>>international >>> rabies travel booster
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>>charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Dan, >>> >>> Yes, correct, Switzerland isn?t in
>>the EU. But that doesn?t seem to matter. They were fine for entry.
>>>>> >>> This was trip number two in the past few years to Europe. The
>>first time, we landed in Amsterdam. This time, Zurich. Other border
>>crossings within Europe were casual, or nothing at all since it is now
>>mostly EU members. On a train down into Italy, for example, there was
>>an announcement that border agents would come through for passports.
>>Yup, a couple of guys did walk through, but that?s all they did?walk
>>through! >>> >>> Experience so far is that any real hubbub is from the
>>U.S., through the USDA. It seems that the rest of whom we?ve seen so
>>far are more civilized and dog friendly. If they meet you at all when
>>you land, it?s because you had to declare something special on the way
>>in over there. Otherwise, you get, as you walk through, hey what a
>>great dog, welcome, have a nice visit, bye bye. >>> >>> Here, you go
>>to not just a vet, but specifically a USDA endorsed one, for which
>>you?ll pay added fees. There is one amongst the large staff of our
>>vet clinic, so we see him for this. They will do the health cert and
>>make sure rabies is up to date, and get at least two copies of the
>>rabies certificate (one of them, embossed), with the third party vet
>>health certificate. Make sure you have duplicate everything. Then
>>you make an appointment and travel to a USDA APHIS office, where they
>>look at the papers, and stamp them (called endorsing), to say
>>essentially, that yes, they are papers from a vet?and now are
>>officially USDA endorsed. Then off you go. >>> >>> Another country
>>may ask to look at papers, but usually just a quick glance at a rabies
>>cert if anything at all. This business is mostly for re-entering the
>>U.S. The first time home, we stopped at USDA within customs, where
>>they gave us a friendly rectoscopy, going through everything in fine
>>detail. It took half an hour. This time however, in Philadelphia
>>there was just one guy at a counter, who only glanced at a current
>>rabies certificate and we were done. Hey you know the drill, if you
>>put up your tarp, it won?t rain. Get the paperwork! >>> >>> Ok, that
>>all was for main Europe, not UK countries and Sweden who have stricter
>>entry requirements. The deal with countries that are islands is they
>>may not have had rabies before. So they are very strict about
>>boosters. Be careful, this can get you overvaccinated. So any of you
>>guys planning for travel, do think ahead. For UK countries (England,
>>Ireland and Scotland), our current three year rabies booster is
>>sufficient. But, it must also be accompanied by a vet?s entire rabies
>>booster history, all the way back to puppy?s first shot. If there has
>>-ever- been a lapse of a rabies shot due date - in the dog?s entire
>>history - even a booster due date lapse of just one day - then a full
>>booster must be given, within one year before entering that country.
>>Several weeks may have to pass between this new shot and entering the
>>country, so that they consider that it has taken effect. This is
>>regardless whether you are currently within your good three year
>>booster period. So lets say, that a year an a month ago, you did your
>>three year booster. If your pup ever missed a shot in it?s past, even
>>by one day, then you must vaccinate again. This then gives you one
>>year to be current for entry into that country, including the time
>>you?ll spend there. >>> >>> We have researched enough to learn that
>>most of the time (or more), our dogs?s original puppy shots are still
>>be measured by titer tests to be providing current immunity
>>sufficiency. So we do not over vaccinate them. The array of
>>boosters, in other words, that most dogs get after the original
>>series, appear to be unnecessary, provided that titer tests do show
>>currently sufficient immunity. Dogs really do seem need to get shots
>>in the beginning as puppies, to keep them safe from diseases to which
>>they can be exposed. But then, they may have lifelong immunity.
>>There are exceptions, such as water or fecal-borne diseases for which
>>they may still need a booster because those pathogens change over time
>>and they may not be protected from the new ones. Talk to your vet,
>>and find out whether they are level headed researchers who will weigh
>>data, or shot marketers. Our research on over-vaccinating points to
>>long term health concerns. So we spend whatever money necessary on
>>titer tests. And at age 9, we have gotten answers all the way through
>>so far, that immune antibody levels are fully current, so no further
>>vaccinations have been necessary. Here in California, however, there
>>is no getting around a rabies booster every three years, even if you
>>drop the thousand bucks for a rabies titer test and it shows perfect
>>immunity. You still are required to do the shot. So we do that one.
>>>>> >>> I believe that we have never lapsed a rabies period for a
>>booster. So in theory, for the UK, within any three year period after
>>a rabies booster shot, we could go to a UK country. But rules change,
>>and so do interpretations of individuals, such as that one, officious
>>officer who was having a bad day, that you might run into on your next
>>trip. How this applies to UK, Sweden, and anywhere else with strict
>>rabies rules is, we will only visit one of those countries during the
>>period within the first year of a current rabies shot, even though our
>>shot is a three year dose. That keeps us safe from foibles on entry,
>>and clearly within the period that a shot had to be given if they have
>>any issues anyway. >>> >>> As long as we are on this, if any of you
>>need a reminder of the little nasty bits we can encounter, ADI has cut
>>a deal with the UK. Only dogs from schools affiliated with ADI get
>>into UK countries. Other service dogs can enter, but if trained with
>>a non-ADI school, or self-trained, you will have to buck up and pay a
>>(quote), special handling fee unquote, of 800 British Pounds per dog
>>on entry. >>> >>> Happy travels all! >>> Peter >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 14,
>>2019, at
>>5:00 AM, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >>>> >>>>
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