[NAGDU] Question about Breeds

Tue Mar 5 17:47:37 UTC 2019

Hi Sam.
All the breeds come in all sizes, from small to big, 40 pounds to 90.
Me, I prefer a smallish dog, because I work in an urban area, and I need a
dog who can easily fit into small, crowded spaces.
It's funny too--sometimes the little ones go like stinkum, and the big
ones just loaf along.
Tracy

> Thank you all for your input! In terms of size, which are some of the
> bigger breeds?
>
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>> On Mar 5, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Debra Chandler via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just a note to those of you who want a German shepherd as a guide.  I
>> had a pet GSD who just passed away.  I had her for eleven and a half
>> years and we were very close.  She loved people but wasn't overly fond
>> of other dogs although she and my guide dog got along fine.  Anyway many
>> people are absolutely terrified of German shepherds so if you take cabs
>> or Lift a lot be prepared.  Drivers often won't take you because they're
>> so afraid of GSD's.
>> Deb and Tally
>> ---- Charlene Ota via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Well, and then there's my friend who always has had dobies. When he got
>>> married, he had Jackie. They kept leaving lunch money on the table for
>>> the
>>> daughter for school and every day Trish would tell them there wasn't
>>> any
>>> money there. I can't remember how many days it took before they figured
>>> out
>>> who was eating the money!  Sure enough, good old Jackie was the
>>> culprit!
>>> Now that Tim is older, I've tried hard to convince him to accept a lab
>>> but
>>> he just won't do it. Dobies are too high energy and he's not able to
>>> get out
>>> and work a lot now but misses having a dog terribly. He's had guide
>>> dogs
>>> since he was 8 or 9 years old. He is a good case in point that it does
>>> pay
>>> to be flexible and open-minded because they can't find him a dobie that
>>> is
>>> laid back enough for him now.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:38 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>
>>> I've had a Golden and Lab/Golden as guides, and a Lab/Golden guide dog
>>> dropout as a pet. All three dogs were what guide dog programs would
>>> consider
>>> a city dog. Both of the crosses were pretty much bomb proof.
>>> My one cross developed a thunder/firework phobia but literally could
>>> care
>>> less about anything else, so it's a little weird. Both crosses were
>>> very
>>> hard dogs, in the sense that even a strong correction on a prong
>>> wouldn't
>>> bother them much. The Golden is a bit more sensitive in a way. She is
>>> perfectly capable of handling pretty much anything I throw at her, and
>>> in
>>> fact I remember a member of the training staff remarking that she
>>> appears
>>> fearless. At the same time, she works in a martingale 95% of the time,
>>> is
>>> very in tune to changes in tone (high pitched tone gets her really
>>> excited
>>> and harsh tone works as well as a leash correction more often than
>>> not), and
>>> she flinches whenever she causes me to trip or bump into something. My
>>> cross
>>> was like "oh I guess I missed that" when we reworked an obstacle, while
>>> the
>>> Golden is like "OMG I'm so sorry that was my fault" instantly upon
>>> making
>>> the mistake.
>>>
>>> Both of my guides are very high energy, while the dropout was more laid
>>> back. All three dogs gravitate to water. My more Lab-like cross in fact
>>> will
>>> paw water out of water bowls, lay in puddles, and retrieve a toy in
>>> water
>>> for an hour or more without stopping. While all three dogs loved all
>>> people
>>> and liked as much physical contact with people as possible, the Golden
>>> is
>>> the only one who will seek out attention in public while working.
>>>
>>> Both crosses would eat anything that was offered. The more Lab-like
>>> cross in
>>> fact has a serious counter surfing/scavenging tendency. The Golden is
>>> quite
>>> food motivated as wel; however, not to the extent of the crosses. She
>>> refused to eat sometimes in the kennel, and she refused kibble rewards
>>> in
>>> some situations during the first few months I had her due to a
>>> combination
>>> of stress and excitement of the transition I think.
>>>
>>> Some other Golden tendencies include being vocal. Most Goldens and
>>> Golden
>>> crosses will have a whole assortment of growls, whines, groans, etc
>>> when
>>> they are excited, want something, or feel the need to tell you they are
>>> right and you are wrong. Goldens like to rest their heads on things,
>>> and
>>> they use their paws a lot. Lab hair coats everything in a blanket, but
>>> Golden hair clumps into giant hairballs floating around your house.
>>> Golden
>>> hair will collect snowballs and everything you never wanted to know was
>>> dropped on the floor under seats or tables.
>>>
>>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>>>
>>>> On 3/4/19, Rox Homstad via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Jordan,
>>>> My lab, Soleil hates water also. Mostly she will try and guide me
>>>> around puddles or will stop and then jump over them and hold steady
>>>> while I step over. Buuuut last week, she walked me right through one.
>>>> We had been in New York where it snowed and then I was hospitalized
>>>> for a week, and she was really bored in the hospital that whole time
>>>> and so I swear she walked me through that puddle when I left the
>>>> hospital on purpose and then turned to me with this look on her face
>>>> that was clearly like "sorry not sorry." Just wait, I'm having the
>>>> last word, we're leaving for the frozen north and Canada in 4 days and
>>>> so ... she's going to have to pee in the snow.  Poor little southern
>>>> bell!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches
>>>> Soleil, Rowan
>>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had a golden, and two labs, and I can tell you that they are
>>>>> or can be all different.  My golden was as sweet as can be and liked
>>>>> being right in the middle of things.  My first lab was hyper major
>>>>> but was eager to please when she was not being stubborn.  My most
>>>>> recent dog was a lab and was as calm as could be but harder to get to
>>>>> do what I wanted him to do.  Funny thing is that my second dog hated
>>>>> water with a passion while my first and third dogs would find every
>>>>> puddle to go play in if I let them.  Lol.  My girlfriend has a lab
>>>>> gold cross, and he has definite traits from both breeds mostly
>>>>> between my first and second dogs.
>>>>> Jordan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sam Doman via
>>>>> NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 3:50 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Sam Doman <skdoman2001 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>
>>>>> Love it! How have your goldens been in terms of tempermant??
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, super cute!  Thanks for the smile!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Janell and Miss Rosy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
>>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 2:30 PM
>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Madison Martin <maddymartin at mymts.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sam and all, I'm a sucker for Goldens, but as long as I don't get
>>>>>> a Poodle then I really don't care. I don't want a Shepherd, but
>>>>>> luckily the schools that I'm interested in don't train German
>>>>>> Shepherds. Hope you get a guide dog soon! I saw this on a couple of
>>>>>> other guide dog lists; I don't know if it's of any help to anyone,
>>>>>> but I thought that you guys might find it funny. I don't know where
>>>>>> the other lists got it
>>>>> from though. Here it is:
>>>>>> Which Breed Is the Best Dog?
>>>>>> Golden Retrievers must be touching you at all times.
>>>>>> Labs want to touch you at all times.
>>>>>> German Shepherds have to see you
>>>>>> at all times.
>>>>>> If they had a job...
>>>>>> Golden Retrievers would be social workers.
>>>>>> Labs would be stand up comedians.
>>>>>> German Shepherds would be nannies.
>>>>>> If they
>>>>>> were religious:
>>>>>> Golden Retrievers must be Catholics; they understand the need to
>>>>>> confess their guilt.
>>>>>> Labs must be protestants, "What guilt?"
>>>>>> German Shepherds
>>>>>> must be agnostics, "I only did what was necessary."
>>>>>> Golden Retrievers need attention.
>>>>>> Labs want attention.
>>>>>> German Shepherds demand attention.
>>>>>> If Golden
>>>>>> Retrievers could talk, they would be constantly saying, "I love you!
>>>>>> I love you! And if you came home and found a broken lamp, they would
>>>>>> say, "I'm a bad dog! I must have broken it even if I was outside the
>>>>>> whole time! Oh No, you are unhappy!"
>>>>>> If Labs could talk, they would constantly be saying, "Love me!
>>>>>> Love Me!" And if you came home to find a broken lamp, they would
>>>>>> say, "Broken lamp? Yup, I was having tons of fun and I broke it!
>>>>>> Want to see me break the other one?"
>>>>>> If German Shepherds could talk they would be constantly saying,
>>>>>> "Where are you going, be careful! Let me help you with that!" And if
>>>>>> you came home to find a broken lamp, they would declare, I told him
>>>>>> not to do it, but the cat broke the lamp anyway!"
>>>>>> Golden Retrievers -- long hair- on your clothes, in your food, on
>>>>>> your couch, in your bed . everywhere!
>>>>>> Labs -short hair- on your clothes, in your food, on your couch, in
>>>>>> your bed.everywhere!
>>>>>> German Shepherds - multi-colored hair--on your clothes, in your
>>>>>> food, on your couch, in your bed.everywhere!
>>>>>> Golden Retrievers brush daily;
>>>>>> Labs blow their
>>>>>> coats at least twice a year, take them to a groomer for a bath
>>>>>> spring and fall, basically wash and wear. German Shepherds are
>>>>>> walking fur factories capable of creating huge dust bunnies that are
>>>>>> intelligent enough to hide until you put the vacuum cleaner away.
>>>>>> You might just consider giving these names and making them members
>>>>>> of
>>> the family.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you guys think? Enjoy!!
>>>>>> Madison
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>>>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: March-04-19 11:55 AM
>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are only 2 schools that have plenty of shepherds, The Seeing
>>>>>> Eye and Fidelco.  Fidelco only has shepherds, and TSE has about
>>>>>> equal of the 3-4 breeds.  Some other schools have a very few
>>>>>> shepherds, but, if that's what you really want, you should probably
>>>>>> look into a school that has them, or be prepared to wait a while for
>>>>>> one to come along that
>>>>> will suit you.
>>>>>> Cindy is totally right to point out that it's not just the breed;
>>>>>> the personality and the way the dog suits your needs is the big
>>>>>> thing.  I had a lab who had many shepherd qualities, and another who
>>>>>> had many golden qualities.  I expect there are sheppies who are
>>> lab-like, too.
>>>>>> And that sets aside the lifestyle concerns.  Do you need a dog who
>>>>>> loves the big city?  That kind is usually bored crazy with a quiet
>>>>>> life.  Or are you someone who lives in the country, and walks 3
>>>>>> miles into
>>>>> town most days?
>>>>>> What do you want the dog to do for you?  That's a rhetorical
>>>>>> question, but an important one.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam Doman
>>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 12:37 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Cc: Sam Doman
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah. I think that leader does. I know all about labs being eaters,
>>>>>> as I have a pet lab who constantly looks for food. I've really been
>>>>>> looking at goldens or german shepherds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sam.
>>>>>>> Do you get much choice at Leader?  Many schools have mostly labs.
>>>>>>> Not a problem for me, though.  I like labs a lot.  They tend to be
>>>>>>> healthy, even-tempered, and adaptable to any situation.  They can
>>>>>>> lie quietly in an office, or walk around all day.  One thing about
>>>>>>> labs is they're not picky eaters.  Or, looked at another way,
>>>>>>> they'll eat anything, any time, and sometimes it's not something
>>>>>>> you want them to
>>>>> eat.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam
>>>>>>> Doman via NAGDU
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 12:16 PM
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Cc: Sam Doman
>>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey all. So as I may be getting a dog soon, I wanted to ask your
>>>>>>> alls opinion on the different breeds. What do you like about them,
>>>>>>> how are they with temperament? Thanks..
>>>>>>>
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