[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 183, Issue 12
Peter Wolf
pwolf1 at wolfskills.com
Fri Jun 26 20:44:30 UTC 2020
Masks will change sound reflecting and guiding face contours. And, material will absorb sound that ordinarily wouldn’t have been. I remember decades ago, when fully sighted. I shaved off my beard. I had worn it for 20 years straight. Suddenly I felt air currents, and changes in temperature within them as they brushed and countoured those exposed surfaces. That would about be right in terms of changed contours that contribute to how we hear for changes in sound when introducing a mask!
Peter
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> 1. Dog Food (cindyray at gmail.com)
> 2. Texas Association of Guide Dog Users meeting this Sunday!!!!
> (Elizabeth Campbell)
> 3. Fwd: [txagdu] Texas Association of Guide Dog Users meeting
> this Sunday!!!! (Raul A. Gallegos (NFB))
> 4. Re: Dog Food (Lisa Belville)
> 5. Masks and orientation (Tracy Carcione)
> 6. Re: Masks and orientation (Danielle Sykora)
> 7. Re: Masks and orientation (Jenine Stanley)
> 8. Re: Masks and orientation (Susan Jones)
> 9. Re: Masks and orientation (Melissa Allman)
> 10. Re: Masks and orientation (Susan Jones)
> 11. Re: Dog Food (Lynette Kersey)
> 12. Re: Dog Food (maddymartin at mymts.net)
> 13. Re: Masks and orientation (Star Gazer)
> 14. Re: Masks and orientation (Tracy Carcione)
> 15. Re: Masks and orientation (Lisa Belville)
> 16. Re: Masks and orientation (Lisa Belville)
> 17. Re: Dog Food (cindyray at gmail.com)
> 18. Re: Dog Food (maddymartin at mymts.net)
> 19. Re: Masks and orientation (cindyray at gmail.com)
> 20. Re: Dog Food (cindyray at gmail.com)
> 21. Re: Masks and orientation (Brent Franklin)
> 22. Re: Masks and orientation (Charlene Ota)
> 23. Re: Masks and orientation (d m gina)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 07:49:15 -0500
> From: <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food
> Message-ID: <024501d64aef$091c7f30$1b557d90$@gmail.com>
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> I am just curious. Has anyone tried True Acre dogfood?
>
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 08:43:22 -0500
> From: Elizabeth Campbell <batescampbell at gmail.com>
> To: TXAGDU List <txagdu at nfbtx.org>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,
> "<member at nfbtx.org>" <member at nfbtx.org>, Lisa Davis
> <lisa.davis2791 at gmail.com>, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Texas Association of Guide Dog Users meeting this
> Sunday!!!!
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> Hi everyone, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. I wanted to invite
> you to our monthly TXAGDU meeting this Sunday, June 28 at 4 p.m. central
> time.
> We are having a guest speaker from Guide Dogs for the Blind who will give
> us helpful tips for keeping our dogs active and healthy as many of us are
> spending more time working from home and adjusting to a new normal. We will
> also discuss upcoming national convention activities and plans for our
> virtual Newsline event.
> Here is the information you will need to join via the Zoom platform.
> The Texas Association of Guide Dog Users is inviting you to our monthly
> members meeting. We will meet on Zoom.
>
> The direct link is:
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/650593045
>
> The meeting ID is: 650 593 045
> The password is: 032374
>
> If you have a smartphone, you can use one of the following one tap
> mobile magic links:
> +13462487799,,650593045#,,#,032374# US (Houston)
> +16699006833,,650593045#,,#,032374# US (San Jose)
>
> If you choose to dial from a mobile phone or land line, that's fine too.
> Just remember to press the pound key twice after entering the meeting
> ID. The numbers are below.
> +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
> +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
> +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose)
> +1 646 876 9923 US (New York)
> +1 253 215 8782 US
> +1 301 715 8592 US
> +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
> Meeting ID: 650 593 045
> Password: 032374
>
> Thanks, and hope to see you there.
>
> --
> Elizabeth Campbell
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 08:45:21 -0500
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos (NFB)" <rgallegos at nagdu.org>
> To: NAGDU List <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, GEB Grads List
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> Subject: [NAGDU] Fwd: [txagdu] Texas Association of Guide Dog Users
> meeting this Sunday!!!!
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> Hope to see Texas and other interested folks there.
>
>
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Vice President: National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Vice President: National Federation of the Blind Houston Chapter
> (832) 554-7285 | rgallegos at nagdu.org
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> "Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap." -- Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [txagdu] Texas Association of Guide Dog Users meeting this
> Sunday!!!!
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 08:43:22 -0500
> From: Elizabeth Campbell <batescampbell at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: txagdu at nfbtx.org
> To: TXAGDU List <txagdu at nfbtx.org>, NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, <member at nfbtx.org>
> <member at nfbtx.org>, Lisa Davis <lisa.davis2791 at gmail.com>, Aleeha Dudley
> <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Hi everyone, I hope you??are staying safe and healthy. I wanted to
> invite you to our monthly TXAGDU meeting this Sunday, June 28 at 4 p.m.
> central time.
> We are having a guest speaker from Guide Dogs for the Blind who will
> give us helpful tips for keeping our dogs active and healthy as many of
> us are spending more time working from home and adjusting to a new
> normal. We will also discuss upcoming national convention activities and
> plans for our virtual Newsline event.
> Here is the information?you will need to join via the Zoom platform.
> The Texas Association of Guide Dog Users is inviting you to our monthly
> members meeting. We will meet on Zoom.
>
> The direct link is:
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/650593045
>
> The meeting ID is: 650 593 045
> The password is: 032374
>
> If you have a smartphone, you can use one of the following one tap
> mobile magic links:
> +13462487799,,650593045#,,#,032374# US (Houston)
> +16699006833,,650593045#,,#,032374# US (San Jose)
>
> If you choose to dial from a mobile phone or land line, that's fine too.
> Just remember to press the pound key twice after entering the meeting
> ID. The numbers are below.
> ? ? ? ? ?+1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
> ? ? ? ? ?+1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
> ? ? ? ? ?+1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose)
> ? ? ? ? ?+1 646 876 9923 US (New York)
> ? ? ? ? ?+1 253 215 8782 US
> ? ? ? ? ?+1 301 715 8592 US
> ? ? ? ? ?+1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
> Meeting ID: 650 593 045
> Password: 032374
>
> Thanks, and hope to see you there.
>
> --
> Elizabeth Campbell
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:33:48 -0500
> From: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> To: Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
> Message-ID: <167f3454-bb74-49fe-6414-51068dcb15dc at frontier.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi, Cindy.
>
>
> I remember looking it up on Dogfood Advisor the first time I saw it on
> Chewy and the raiting they gave wasn't as positive as the Victor Formula
> Paige is currently getting.? I believe they described it as a middle of
> the road food.? The description on Chewy makes it sound very tasty,
> though. >grin>
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> On 6/25/2020 7:49 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU wrote:
>> I am just curious. Has anyone tried True Acre dogfood?
>>
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:14:32 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
> Message-ID: <00a201d64b1c$7a128590$6e3790b0$@access.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>
>
>
> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:27:56 -0400
> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
> Message-ID: <7C87A364-EF15-4B02-9E96-2C4153480F22 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Yes, I feel the same way. It definitely effects echo location and sound shadows to an extent for me. There?s a noticeable difference with the mask in public and without it walking around unpopulated outdoor areas.
> Danielle
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:32:11 -0400
> From: Jenine Stanley <jeninems at icloud.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
> Message-ID: <1C747737-CD24-4A46-924A-0EE334A1527F at icloud.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Oh Tracy, yes, yes, yes. This doesn?t stop me from wearing one but I definitely feel off with the mask. I think we use much more surface area than just our ears when doing echo location and since masks do change the air flow and shape of your head shadow, I?m guessing that?s what the issue is in part.
>
> I do get used to it after a while but wow, those first few minutes are ugly, especially switching from dog to cane now.
>
>
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:38:03 -0400
> From: "Susan Jones" <sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
> Message-ID: <006f01d64b1f$c3257690$497063b0$@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I know for myself, even though my eyes aren't covered, the mask comes up
> high enough that it occludes some of my vision.
> I just have to tell myself that it's no big deal, just rely on your
> blindness skills. The sight you have isn't anything that really helps
> anyway.
>
> Susan
>
> Sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:15 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
>
> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>
>
>
> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:39:19 -0400
> From: Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
> Message-ID: <68528A425613C841AF38DE1B877F19630220D0B639D8 at TSEMTEXCH01>
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> You know this is interesting. I have had moments like that too but couldn't explain them. Then a sighted person told me when she has her mask on, she feels like she can't hear. So I guess it's a phenomenon that's manifesting itself for blind and sighted people but affecting us in different ways.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:32 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Jenine Stanley
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
>
> Oh Tracy, yes, yes, yes. This doesn?t stop me from wearing one but I definitely feel off with the mask. I think we use much more surface area than just our ears when doing echo location and since masks do change the air flow and shape of your head shadow, I?m guessing that?s what the issue is in part.
>
> I do get used to it after a while but wow, those first few minutes are ugly, especially switching from dog to cane now.
>
>
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel
>> slightly disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't
>> cover my ears, and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what
>> exactly is making me feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets
>> better after a while, so maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it
>> is. Or maybe it's my imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus
>> seemed a bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:40:24 -0400
> From: "Susan Jones" <sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
> Message-ID: <007301d64b20$17601da0$462058e0$@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> FYI, I don't wear my mask when out walking, just when I know I'm going into a crowd, or inside a building.
> For example I will walk to church, and pause just outside to put my mask on before going inside.
>
> Susan
> Sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:28 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Danielle Sykora
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
>
> Yes, I feel the same way. It definitely effects echo location and sound shadows to an extent for me. There?s a noticeable difference with the mask in public and without it walking around unpopulated outdoor areas.
> Danielle
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 12:00:53 -0700
> From: Lynette Kersey <wags2woofs at charter.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
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> As far as dog food goes, I?ve decided to try NutriSource. Hope is eating the beef and rice formula. She seems to like it. I looked it up on dog food advisor and they gave it a 4 if I remember correctly.
> I have noticed that the foods that get a 5 star are high performance foods. My dog would gain weight on that really easy.
> Chewy doesn?t carry it but you can get it from petflow.com. They put their foods in neighborhood pet stores and not in the major chains like Petsmart and Petco.
> I hope this has helped those who are looking for dog food.
>
> Lynette
> Character is doing the right thing when nobody?s looking.
> C.J. Watts
>
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 5:50 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:00:42 -0500
> From: <maddymartin at mymts.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
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> Hi Cindy,
> I looked at that food; it did get the advisor's mid-tear rating. The food
> doesn't impress me much at all. First of all it's grain-free and there's a link
> between grain-free foods and a heart condition called DCM. It also uses peas as
> the second ingredient and there's also a link between foods that use peas and
> legumes in general and DCM. I would not feed this food at all because of the
> ingredients, the fact that it's grain free and the rating that it received. Just
> my thoughts,
> Madison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: June 25, 2020 7:49 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
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> Cc: cindyray at gmail.com
> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food
>
> I am just curious. Has anyone tried True Acre dogfood?
>
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:22:38 -0400
> From: Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> Me too while wearing the masks. I can?t explain it, I feel kind of off, it is harder to judge distances, and sometimes I have a hard time knowing when someone is speaking to me or to someone around me, I have to think a bit more while processing who is talking and who they are talking too. It kind of feels like being real congested minus the gunk.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 14:33, Jenine Stanley via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Oh Tracy, yes, yes, yes. This doesn?t stop me from wearing one but I definitely feel off with the mask. I think we use much more surface area than just our ears when doing echo location and since masks do change the air flow and shape of your head shadow, I?m guessing that?s what the issue is in part.
>>
>> I do get used to it after a while but wow, those first few minutes are ugly, especially switching from dog to cane now.
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:33:23 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> That's sort of what I thought, but I'm not too clear on which parts of my face do the echo-location, and I never even thought of head shadow. Jeanine, it must be even worse with a cane. At least the dog keeps me headed straight, even if he is extra sniffy.
>
> Like Susan J, I don't wear the mask if I'm walking around the backstreets of my neighborhood, but the main streets and New York always have the potential of being crowded, so on goes the mask when I head that way.
> Thanks guys for confirming it's not just me.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:32 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Jenine Stanley
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
>
> Oh Tracy, yes, yes, yes. This doesn?t stop me from wearing one but I definitely feel off with the mask. I think we use much more surface area than just our ears when doing echo location and since masks do change the air flow and shape of your head shadow, I?m guessing that?s what the issue is in part.
>
> I do get used to it after a while but wow, those first few minutes are ugly, especially switching from dog to cane now.
>
>
>> On Jun 25, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:36:16 -0500
> From: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> To: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> Oh yes, Tracy I completely understand.? I feel as if something is
> blocking my progress forward and I want to push it out of the way.? My
> mask stops just above my eyes, but it covers my cheeks, so I'm thinking
> I have more facial vision than I realized.? I guess I use more than my
> ears and brain to find my way around.
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> On 6/25/2020 1:14 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:38:54 -0500
> From: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> To: Susan Jones via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> That's what's so odd for me.? I feel like something is in my way, that's
> blocking my vision even if I don't have any usable vision to block.?
> It's frustrating, especially as more places are making it a requirement
> to enter.? I feel like I need to practice in my own home just to be sure
> I'm reading signals correctly.
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> On 6/25/2020 1:38 PM, Susan Jones via NAGDU wrote:
>> I know for myself, even though my eyes aren't covered, the mask comes up
>> high enough that it occludes some of my vision.
>> I just have to tell myself that it's no big deal, just rely on your
>> blindness skills. The sight you have isn't anything that really helps
>> anyway.
>>
>> Susan
>>
>> Sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:15 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
>>
>> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:02:52 -0500
> From: <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
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> I thought it sounded interesting. Not changing food again any time soon if I don't have to.
> Cindy Lou
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:34 AM
> To: Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
>
> Hi, Cindy.
>
>
> I remember looking it up on Dogfood Advisor the first time I saw it on Chewy and the raiting they gave wasn't as positive as the Victor Formula Paige is currently getting. I believe they described it as a middle of the road food. The description on Chewy makes it sound very tasty, though. >grin>
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> On 6/25/2020 7:49 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU wrote:
>> I am just curious. Has anyone tried True Acre dogfood?
>>
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>>
>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:53:53 -0500
> From: <maddymartin at mymts.net>
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> What food are you feeding now? Just curious that's all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: June 25, 2020 3:03 PM
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> Cc: cindyray at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
>
> I thought it sounded interesting. Not changing food again any time soon if I
> don't have to.
> Cindy Lou
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:34 AM
> To: Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
>
> Hi, Cindy.
>
>
> I remember looking it up on Dogfood Advisor the first time I saw it on Chewy and
> the raiting they gave wasn't as positive as the Victor Formula Paige is
> currently getting. I believe they described it as a middle of the road food.
> The description on Chewy makes it sound very tasty, though. >grin>
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> On 6/25/2020 7:49 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU wrote:
>> I am just curious. Has anyone tried True Acre dogfood?
>>
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>>
>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:48:09 -0500
> From: <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> Tracy, I am glad you mentioned this. I feel some disorientation when I have
> on a mask as well, and I can't figure out why it is either. It's
> embarrassing when at Physical Fitness and I go so awfully crooked because I
> don't actually have my bearings.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:15 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
>
> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>
>
>
> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:57:16 -0500
> From: <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
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> I am feeding a mix of Iams Minichunks and a mature food from Iams. The
> mature food alone doesn't do him good, but he's fine with this. Actually, I
> thought to hunt for another mature food, but I decided that he seems well
> with this, so that's what I will continue to do. I won't be exploring foods
> unless I actually have to because he seems pretty stable now.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Madison Martin via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:54 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
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> Cc: maddymartin at mymts.net
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
>
> What food are you feeding now? Just curious that's all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: June 25, 2020 3:03 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: cindyray at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
>
> I thought it sounded interesting. Not changing food again any time soon if I
> don't have to.
> Cindy Lou
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:34 AM
> To: Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food
>
> Hi, Cindy.
>
>
> I remember looking it up on Dogfood Advisor the first time I saw it on Chewy
> and the raiting they gave wasn't as positive as the Victor Formula Paige is
> currently getting. I believe they described it as a middle of the road
> food.
> The description on Chewy makes it sound very tasty, though. >grin>
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> On 6/25/2020 7:49 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU wrote:
>> I am just curious. Has anyone tried True Acre dogfood?
>>
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>>
>>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 08:03:25 +1000
> From: Brent Franklin <bfranklin at woolworths.com.au>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
> Message-ID: <4359a58bf9ab8072fb9ae31d24e125e2 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello Tracy,
>
> Thanks for bringing up this most interesting subject. I'm interested in
> reading all comments, as I don't currently have a mask, but will be
> getting one soon enough. Was only talking to people about this on
> Wednesday.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Brent.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, 26 June 2020 4:15 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
>
> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel
> slightly
> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my
> ears,
> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while,
> so
> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>
>
>
> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>
> Tracy
>
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 19:38:43 -0500
> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota4 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> Tracy, glad you said something because I've had that feeling of just being a
> bit disoriented as well. I was wondering if the mask conflicts with the
> facial vision that we have. I don't know a lot about that, but I think it
> has to do with echoing off of things and some sort of sense in the face. It
> doesn't bother me much any more, but at first it was really disorienting but
> I thought maybe I was just crazy or something. Thank you for saying
> something.
>
> Charlene
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> Subject: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>
>
>
> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>
> Tracy
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 23:28:27 -0400
> From: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Masks and orientation
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> Yes,
> I always felt that in and beside your eyes and cheek bones is another
> way to tell when you are coming upon or near an object.
> When this is covered, all you have is your ears.
> When the mask is off, you can travel with more confidence.
> Plus you get so warm with the mask on it maters.
> I am getting a mask where the nose is has a metal peace you can fit to
> your nose.
> Pushing down on both sides.
> It has a filter where there are small holes so you can breathe better.
> This comes from amazon.
> I am waiting for the information, then I will order me one.
> Dar Original message:
>> I've been venturing further afield, wearing my mask. I often feel slightly
>> disoriented wearing the mask, at least for a bit. It doesn't cover my ears,
>> and my echo-location seems OK, so I'm not sure what exactly is making me
>> feel like I'm not quite sure where I am. It gets better after a while, so
>> maybe my unconscious adjusts to whatever it is. Or maybe it's my
>> imagination. Does anyone else feel like that?
>
>
>
>> We went into New York today for the first time in months. Krokus seemed a
>> bit rusty at first, but pretty quick he was back to his usual self.
>
>> Tracy
>
>
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