[NAGDU] Confusion Concerning Voting

Wed Jul 14 02:15:32 UTC 2021

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the mug, and still wasn't able to 
vote.  I contacted our national office and they are aware.  Like they said, 
they can't do anything about it this time, but they will investigate and try to 
figure out what happened.  It's just one of those glitches that didn't go as 
expected.  Life happens while you're busy making other plans.  Joy

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Confusion Concerning Voting

Hello All:
With respect to voting at our National convention, folks had to be registered 
by May 31 and there was a check box asking if folks would like to vote at 
convention and if that box was checked, then national did a crosscheck with 
State affiliates to make sure that folks were in good standing. The way the was 
done was to have all local chapters and divisions submit our membership lists 
to the national office. If your information could not be verified by your State 
affiliate, then voting privileges were not permitted. Also, several 
announcements were made throughout the convention concerning this issue and it 
was made clear on who you should contact. So, if you were a nomad and you were 
inactive, then folks weren't given voting privileges. That is why it so 
important to keep in contact with your chapter and division Presidents. Now, 
with that said, convention is done, so there is no reason to circle back. Time 
to move forward and   work on our Guide Dog initiatives.
Best always:
Tina Thomas-CAGDU-President

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Confusion Concerning Voting

Cindy,

I always felt that what we did at the NAGDU meeting was pretty clear. Voting at 
the National convention sessions was a bit more problematic and apparently many 
who did register were unable to vote. Most unfortunate.

Best Regards,

Michael Hingson

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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
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Subject: [NAGDU] Confusion Concerning Voting

Good afternoon,
It has come to my attention that I may have created more confusion than I 
solved by way of my voting messages. I am sorry that this has happened, so I 
will try to rectify it.
NAGDU Voting.
Hand raising voting was done. If there were phones without names attached, they 
were not counted. This in no way was meant to keep people out, and we will 
doubtless handle the situation differently next time.
People were asked to keep their hands raised and the counters would lower them 
upon completion of the counting. Some people took exception to this method; 
some may have been kicked out of the meeting and had to re-enter. That, too 
would have created issues. We had not voted this way before to my knowledge, so 
the voting here is actually a work in progress.
National Voting. You had to have register for the National Convention by May 31 
in order to vote in the convention itself. Even if you were a NAGDU member, you 
couldn't vote unless you had done so. Therefore, registering by May 31 for the 
convention was a necessary component. Several of us, even though you had 
registered with the convention, received a message that indicated our number 
which we were using to text or call with, was not on their list. It is 
something the the National Office is knowledgeable about at this time, but if 
that happened, then you should let them know. There was a narrow voting window. 
If you called the number too early by just seconds or too late by just seconds, 
it will tell you no poll was active at the time.
I am sure Raul will write more information, but I hope this helps.
Cindy Ray, Moderator
Cindyray at gmail.com

Cindy Lou
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