[NAGDU] Owner training a guide dog

Mon Jul 11 19:49:47 UTC 2022

Hi everyone, 
I am considering owner training a guide dog. I was wondering, if you owner trained your guide what resources did you use? In my area there are no professional trainers that train guide dogs.
 Thank you,
Shelby 

> On Jul 11, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Debbie Malone via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey guys I had serious audio issues at both Magda meetings so I really
> didn't hear what Tim was proposing. Anybody want a sunrise for me? I think
> we should schedule a negative meeting very soon to see if nagged you and
> nfb will do more. Then we can decide what happens from there. What do you
> think?
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 3:39 PM Michael Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Robert,
>> 
>> The law suit did something. It simply wasn't that we made Uber's need to
>> comply strong enough. What Tim discussed at the NAGDU meeting is a start,
>> but we already did that. We need to not only pursue what Tim suggested, but
>> we need to look at other possible options. Not going to discuss too much in
>> public right now. If NAGDU leaders want to discuss then we can schedule
>> time. There are options we can explore.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of robert stigile via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 12:13 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: robert stigile <rstigile at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber response
>> 
>> So what are you proposing since a lawsuit did absolutely nothing!
>> 
>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando
>> Valley Chapter
>> 818-381-9568
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 11, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Debbie Malone via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael, I totally agree. It's time to take more serious action. And
>>> the time is now.
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 2:06 PM Michael Hingson via NAGDU
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The fact is that Uber does not take you nor any of us seriously. When
>>>> will NAGDU and the NFB go after Uber as a company for violating the
>>>> ADA? Time for settlements to go away. Uber already thinks so. We
>>>> should strategize.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:46 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber response
>>>> 
>>>> The final response I got was that they monitor "high cancellation rates"
>>>> and
>>>> warn drivers about them. What are the odds of that driver finding
>>>> another service dog user to cancel on within the next few months?
>>>> Pretty darned unlikely, I think.  So he gets away with it, and Uber
>>>> totally doesn't even understand the problem.
>>>> You might be right; it's not a human responding.
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 11:31 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Cc: Star Gazer; 'Tracy Carcione'
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber response
>>>> 
>>>>                               They aren't, almost sounds like an AI
>>>> response.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 9:39 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Uber response
>>>> 
>>>> I am not happy with Uber's response to my complaint about a driver
>>>> cancelling and driving off when he saw my dog.
>>>> 
>>>> I put the trip date/time in my complaint, and I also chose the
>>>> correct trip on my way to the form, and I saw the date/time seemingly
>>>> attached to my comment.  And yet I got a message from Uber saying
>>>> they couldn't find the trip.  So I wrote again, repeating the info
>>>> I'd already given them.  Then I got a response saying the price was
>>>> good and they couldn't do anything about it and I wouldn't get a
>>>> refund.  I wrote back saying I don't want a refund.
>>>> I want them to tell the driver not to cancel a trip when he sees a
>>>> service dog.  It's like they're not even reading what I'm saying. Grrrr.
>>>> 
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
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