[NAGDU] experiences with Guiding Eyes , and guide dog foundation and guide dogs for the blind

Sat Jan 21 19:07:42 UTC 2023

Hi;
If you are in Georgia you might investigate freedom guide dogs.  They are strictly home training and unfortunately no free stuff.  They do primarily labs and a mix of lab and smooth coat collie.  I like the idea of home training in that the routes I work in training are routes I will actually use when the instructor leaves.  They primarily base their training on praise rather than food.  Can't hurt to investigate.
My concern with treat training is firstly my last dog from geb was a big time scavenger.  If it was on the ground it was his.  Leaves and sticks were his favorite.  The thing was the boy never got sick.  Come was also not in his vocabulary when there was no leash.  He would come within five feet of you and when you reached for him away he went.  Also if you give a dog a food reward if he does something good what do we do when he does something bad?  At seeing eye it’s a larger class on the surface but each instructor is assigned four students and you primarily work with that instructor and your three partners in crime.  It’s a bigger school but it didn't feel at all impersonal.  This might also be something to investigate.  They also don't provide any subsidy.
Best of luck
Richard

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] experiences with Guiding Eyes , and guide dog foundation and guide dogs for the blind

I live  in  Georgia, on the  east  coast, that’s  mainly  why  I’m  looking  at  mainly  Guiding eyes   they  have  that smaller school feel  like  Southeastern had when  I  got  my  first  guide: Franklin, they  started  to feel larger when I  got my  second/current  guide Rob.
And  started  getting  alumni benefits. Currently  they  provide dog food, monthly  flea meds and  pay  for the  yearly  shots.
Which  is  very helpful  on  SSDI.

Their  reasons are  stupid  I feel  but  can’t  do  anything  about it. So just  time  to  find a  new  school  to  work with.

Yours,
Sean 
seanmoore87 at gmail.com <mailto:seanmoore87 at gmail.com> 
  Guide dog  foundation.

> On Jan 21, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Richard via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 	Hi Sean;
> I didn't see your email address or I would have replied off list.  Of the  schools you mentioned gdb would be my choice although I have never been there.  I am in NY state and California is a long plane ride away.  I have had four dogs from guiding eyes and the first two were great.  I very personally felt that quality drastically decreased when they got into click and treat and running guides.  I think the major school that I was happiest with was seeing eye.  They put out a quality dog and they do some limited click and treat which is optional.  My current dog is from freedom guide dogs which does strictly home training because I really didn't feel like packing up for class.  They only serve people living on the east coast so they probably aren't an option.
> Best of luck.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject:  experiences  with Guiding  Eyes 
> 
> Hi  as  I’ve  been  denied a successor dog from Southeastern Guide Dogs and have have  peeled and was denied again. I'm looking for experiences with Guiding   ice, I've already submitted all necessary paperwork and I'm just now waiting for a home interview..
> 
> From talking  with  guide dog trainer   and Client Navigator;  Laurel Sheets, I’ve  gathered  Guiding  eyes  training  is  the  same  as  what  southeastern  started  doing  after  I got  Rob  in 2015. They  are  using  positive reinforcement,  clicker training and food rewards.. Which  I’m  fine  with  since I started using that loosely with Rob. And my trainer had me use praise   and food reward   in my last home visit..
> 
> 
> 
> So  not  sure  what  I’m  really  asking on experiences, but  just  whatever   current graduates can't tell me about current training practices and their  experiences in the 12 day on-campus training at. Guiding eyes.
> 
> And  also  experiences at guide , dog foundation , and guide  dogs for the blind.
> I also have applications in at guide  dogs foundation   and guide dogs for the blind and have been excepted at Pilot in 2018.
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> 
> Thanks,
> Sean 
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