[NAGDU] relieving harness question

Tue Feb 20 22:47:31 UTC 2024

I have used these toilet harnesses for the past 20 years with 3 of my dogs
all males.

The first dog I used this with squatted and there was no problem. I have
always put it on the dogs before they toilet, and never had such an issue.
You will find no problem at all.

Cheers.

Brent.

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] relieving harness question

Hi Julie.
The relieving harness worked great with my boy who lifts his leg, but I'm
not sure if it would catch urine with my boy who squats like a girl.  I
haven't really worked with him and the belt much.  The trainers said to put
it on him after he's peed, but that kind of disrupts the relieving flow, if
you know what I mean.
What do you think?
Tracy

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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via NAGDU
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] relieving harness question

As a maker of the relieving harnesses, yes they work on both males and
females. I modeled my design based on the one from Australia, which was one
of only two designs I found at the time. The other was from Japan and I
didn't like that design at all.  Anyway the Australian model has two clips
on the bottom for the girls and only one for boys. IDuring the development
phase of my design of the relieving harness, I found that the girls needed
the two clips on the bottom to have a better chance of holding the bag so
that it can hopefully not also catch urine. Usually it does anyway, but
sometimes you can position it so that it doesn't. For the boys it didn't
matter one way or the other. It's probably less expensive to make the
relieving harnesses with only one clip, but I found that for me it was much
easier to only keep one style in stock. Easier for making sure I had enough
and keeping inventory straight. So that is why I have made the relieving
harness with two clips on the bottom for all dogs. If you find that only
using one hook on the bottom works better for you, then just leave the other
one empty.

I'm trying to remember the other questions aboutt he relieving harness...it
is meant to be a part of a regular relieving routine, not left on the dog
all the time. I think most people know this now, but it was a large
misundestanding in the beginning. Most guide dogs are used to all sorts of
odd things people do, so generally adjust to using a relieving harness in a
few days or so. To introduce the relieving harness I suggest putting it on
before your releasing the dog to relieve, at first just the belt portion
with no bag. Do that a few times and if all goes well, then introduce the
bag. I highly suggest doing this on a not windy day. The bag rattling around
and moving will make the training phase potentially longer and more
difficult. Let the dog get used to it when it will remain still and quiet,
then add in wind as a possible distraction.

I'm happy to answer any other questions. Sorry I no longer make these, but
there is a new person who is taking over my business. I will update with her
info as soon as it is available.

Julie

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> On Feb 19, 2024, at 9:30 PM, Paula Jordan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all. I've been using the relieving harness for a week and it works
> wonderfully for my male standard poodle.  Just a curiosity question
> raised by a friend.  Can it be used with a female?
>
> God bless!
>
> Paula and the pups
>
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