[Ncabs] more krispy kreme

Thu Oct 7 09:33:06 UTC 2010

If you do it by requiring the member to buy the vouchers up front to
sell them, then I am sorry, but I won't be able to buy mroe than one
or two at the most at a time, if I can afford to buy any up front at
all. Every dollar I get these days go into bills, groceries, or the
Disney/convention fund, and I can't afford anything else. Mike and I
are struggling as it is.

Buying 10 vouchers for $70 is a total imposibility for me, even though
I know I stand a very good chance of selling them, or Mike selling
them, just by talking to people while he is going back and forth to
school or I am running errands. But to purchase them myself ahead of
time? There is no way I could do that.

Yes, thank you, Cindy, that makes perfect sense to me now. I think I
was having a 'well duh' minute.

On 10/7/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu> wrote:
> Right, thank you.  It's just cleaner the way I propose we try it.  I mean,
> if we give those vouchers to a member without having the member pay up
> front, we have to go through the tricky process of waiting until the tickets
> sell to balance our checkbook.  If there's no financial incentive to the
> member to sell the tickets, they won't be as motivated to sell them.  This
> is just human nature and applies to everyone.
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Undergraduate Student
> The University Honors Program
> East Carolina University
> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>
> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
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> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Cala
> Estes [cala.estes at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:21 PM
> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>
> I think that's a good idea Justin. I don't know how well other people
> are going to like the idea of sending off money, but I think if you
> stress that they should only buy as much as they feel they can sell,
> it might put them more at ease.
>
> On 10/6/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu> wrote:
>> Please note- I made that proposal provided that the tickets work at all
>> Krispy Kreme locations.  Not too many people in Charlotte are going to
>> want
>> to buy tickets that only work at a Raleigh Krispy Kreme.
>>
>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> Undergraduate Student
>> The University Honors Program
>> East Carolina University
>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>>
>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>> Salisbury, Justin Mark [SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:56 PM
>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>
>> I certainly agree with Cindy's interpretation of the options.  My personal
>> belief is that we're best off buying a set number of tickets up front and
>> distributing them to members to sell.  I don't think many people are going
>> to buy tickets from someone they don't know well if they can't get the
>> tickets from the seller on the spot.  In other words, I think that I would
>> only be able to sell tickets to people who know me well because others
>> would
>> not trust that they would ever see me again for me to give them the
>> tickets.
>>
>> I think that having a station set up with actual doughnuts may be fun, but
>> I
>> think it would be what's called a "skinny rabbit."  We shouldn't hunt
>> skinny
>> rabbits because there's not a lot of meat on their bones.  Plus, I would
>> hate for us to buy more doughnuts than we can sell that day.  I'm sure the
>> vouchers will last longer than the doughnuts themselves, you know?  I
>> think
>> buying vouchers with NCABS money and mailing them to members to sell is
>> the
>> key.  We have to then make sure that our members actually sell them so
>> that
>> we can get the money back.  When I was a sighted kid selling candy bars
>> for
>> little league, the players all had to pay the full amount of money that
>> they
>> expected to receive from selling the candy bars when receiving the case of
>> candy bars.  It gave us the incentive to actively sell the candy bars
>> because it was the only way for us to get our money back.  I don't think
>> any
>> NCABS member would have a hard time selling 20 or 25 vouchers.  Would you
>> all agree with running our fundraiser similarly to the little league ones
>> I
>> described?
>>
>> If we let members commit to selling a certain number of tickets, they will
>> send us the money, we will send them the tickets, and they will sell the
>> tickets.
>>
>> Does anybody else have ideas?
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> Undergraduate Student
>> The University Honors Program
>> East Carolina University
>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>>
>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>> Cindy
>> Bennett [clb5590 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:33 PM
>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>
>> I think what Preston is saying is that we can sell the tickets 2 ways.
>> We can either purchase the tickets from Krispy Kreme and sell them, or
>> we can take orders from people who are interested in buying a ticket,
>> and then take that list of people to Krispy Kreme and buy a ticket for
>> every person who has given us money. The advantage to purchasing the
>> tickets beforehand is that once we interact with buyers, we don't have
>> to arrange to see them again, but we also run the risk of purchasing
>> too many tickets which would then be a cost to NCABS. The advantage to
>> taking orders from people who want to buy a ticket is that NCABS won't
>> buy too many tickets, but the disadvantage is that we have to talk to
>> people multiple times, we have to take their order and collect their
>> money, and meet up with them again to give them their actual ticket.
>>
>> The third option would be for NCABS to purchase actual doughnuts and sell
>> them.
>>
>> I personally believe that we should set up a station and run it for a
>> few mornings. Perhaps a place on NC State's campus would be good, but
>> i understand sometimes campus's have rules about noncampus orgs
>> selling stuff, so maybe we could find a place right off campus, or we
>> could set up a station where cars would be driving out of an apartment
>> complex in the morning, or where people would be getting on the bus. I
>> think we should also buy tickets and give each member some that they
>> must sell. That way, once they make the sale, we have the money, and
>> there isn't need to meet up again.
>>
>> Preston, you might have answered these questions, and I'm sorry if you
>> have, but is there an expiration date on the tickets? Also, can these
>> tickets be redemed at any Krispy Kreme? If so, that would be awesome,
>> because otherwise, members outside of Raleigh can't really help.
>>
>> Thanks, and Jewel, i hope that clears up some of your confusion. If
>> not, please let me know.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On 10/5/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Maybe I'm just being a dunce, but that made absolutely no sense to
>>> me...how are the three ways different? We buy tickets and sell them,
>>> but you want to do another way to start...I don't understand what that
>>> other way is. I think I'm just being a total dunce, so please be
>>> patient with me!
>>>
>>> On 10/5/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We can sell any of three ways. We can sell tickets for a free dozen of
>>>> original glazed doughnuts, or we can presell with money up front, or we
>>>> can
>>>> presell without money. I have order forms but if we sell tickets we have
>>>> to
>>>> pay out of pocket to Krispy Kreme first. If we chooses the presell
>>>> option
>>>> we
>>>> can collect at least some of the money first to minamize the risk out of
>>>> our
>>>> treasury. If we sell pver a hindred dozens our price goes down to three
>>>> dollars a dozen, and we make three dollars a dozen proffit.
>>>> Preston S Johnson
>>>> psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:09:20 -0400
>>>>> From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>>>>> To: ncabs at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>>>>
>>>>> Do individuals pre-order dozens? Do you pay for them before you sell
>>>>> them, or how is it done? Where do we get the tickets to sell? I'm a
>>>>> bit confused about how to get started with this. I would like to start
>>>>> selling the vouchers for ddozen donuts, though. I think this is a
>>>>> wonderful fundraiser and am ready to get started on it, but am just a
>>>>> bit confused about how to get started. Can y ou explain, please,
>>>>> Preston?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/3/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I have included order forms for krispy kreme fundraisers, as
>>>>> > attachments.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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