[Ncabs] more krispy kreme

Fri Oct 8 20:02:00 UTC 2010

I think this is all great, guys.  I think we can manage to sell 100 vouchers without too much difficulty.  Let's first figure out how many people are able to pre-pay for the vouchers to sell them.  Count me in on that list.

I understand Jewel's challenges and totally respect them.  We should all do what we can reasonably do.

Happy Columbus Day Weekend!

Justin

Justin M. Salisbury
Undergraduate Student
The University Honors Program
East Carolina University
salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."    -Aristotle
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From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu [psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme

Ok, first, to answer your question Cindy, yes if we sell vouchers or tickets they are redeemable at any Krispy Kreme locations. Unfortunately they will not have our NCABS info printed on them, but we if someone wants to volunteer to write that on the vouchers, I say "Go for it!" As far as how much do we pay for the ticket, there is a slight discrepency on that issue. If we sell over one hundred doughnuts we we only have to pay three dollars a dozen. That would be a proffit of at least three hundred dollars from one fundraiser. I have heard back from the head of the student activities at Eake Tech, and she wants more info but it looks positive. She is asking about the date of the event, and how much space I would need. She is off Monday and Tuesday, but I will be contact with her next week.
Preston

> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 18:03:50 -0400
> From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com
> To: ncabs at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>
> Cindy,
> Good point...if Preston gets the go-ahead for the table at Wake Tech,
> I'll definitely be in on that, and maybe we could do it at NC State,
> too. Any update on that, Preston?
>
> If I remember right, we pay $3.50 per ticket, and sell them for $6, so
> we have a profit of $2.50 per ticket. 10 vouchers sold would give
> NCABS a profit of $25. It's a good deal, and I hope we can do the
> table at colleges. It'll be good advertisement for NCABS, also, since
> I know there are blidn students who don't know about NCABS or aren't
> sure about it.
>
> On 10/7/10, Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jewel, i think you bring up some good points. However, i know that we
> > will do other fund raisers. I know Preston is already working on
> > organizing a day to sell doughnuts at Wake Tech. Maybe you could help
> > him with this. I think that not everyone has to be willing to put out
> > money for this to be successful. We need help in many different ways,
> > and we are appreciative that you are so willing to help. We would
> > definitely not want to cause anyone to compromise their basic needs,
> > so just know that if a fund raiser or activity comes up and you aren't
> > able to participate fully, we appreciate your willingness and know
> > that you will definitely step up when another opportunity arises.
> >
> > I am involved in several organizations, and I have to do this all the
> > time. None of us can do everything, so I understand.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, how much do we pay Krispy Kreme for the tickets?
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > On 10/7/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Dear Justin and others,
> >> Even at $6, it is a high price for someone who is on a fixed income
> >> and trying to save for a vacation/convention for nxt year with the
> >> little bit that is left over after bills and groceries. $6 can pay for
> >> two meals' worth of groceries. $12 (two vouchers) would almost pay for
> >> a month's pass for the bus system.
> >>
> >> The only way I could see myself being able to do the pre-paid vouchers
> >> is if someone bought them, then lent them to me and/or Mike, we sell
> >> them, and we return the money to the person who lent them, similar to
> >> what you were saying, Justin. Preston, would you consider doing such?
> >> Or Dasha, maybe Amama (Lusi) would consider sponsoring me by
> >> purchasing a few vouchers for me at a time? Once two vouchers are
> >> purchased for me, I could sell them, then buy two more with that
> >> money, and continue like that. The group would continue to get profit,
> >> and I would work on just the $12 or so that is lent to me for the
> >> purpose.
> >>
> >> I just can't see myself being able to purchase vouchers and continue
> >> to not have that money for other things. It's a matter of being on a
> >> very low income. According to government designations, I am below the
> >> poverty line, and I am struggling quite a bit. I know you guys
> >> understand struggling from your own experiences, but these are tough
> >> times for me and Mike, especially since Food Stamps has denied us more
> >> than $15 per month each...$15 is not going to get nothing these days
> >> as far as food...so we're paying grocery bills out of pocket,
> >> $300/month. After bills and groceries, we have just enough to set
> >> aside for next year's trip and buy Mike's monthly pass and have some
> >> money for me to buy day passes if I want to get out of the house. I'm
> >> not trying to rant; I'm just trying to impress no you guys that some
> >> people simply don't have the money to buy these things. In high
> >> school, it was the same way for me. I grew up in a family that was
> >> just above the poverty line and we would have struggled much more if
> >> we didn't live on a family farm, where we grew much of our vegetables
> >> and raised chickens and goats for food, so grocery bills were low. But
> >> when it came to the candy bar fundraisers, I was unable to participate
> >> because my parents couldn't spare the $20 for the box. Fundraisers
> >> like that leave out the people who live with very little money, who
> >> would be willing and able to sell if they could just sell them first
> >> and send the money after.
> >>
> >> Just my thoughts,
> >> Jewel
> >>
> >> On 10/7/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu> wrote:
> >>> We're selling them for $6 each, not $10 each. A regular dozen at Krispy
> >>> Kreme is about $7.50, which is why there is an incentive for people to
> >>> buy
> >>> our vouchers.
> >>>
> >>> I see your concern, Jewel, but what happens when we buy a bunch of
> >>> vouchers,
> >>> give them to a member, and never hear from that member again? If we
> >>> adopt
> >>> that policy, it's guaranteed to happen at least once. I'm not saying
> >>> that
> >>> because I don't trust particular people in our group; it's just how
> >>> people
> >>> are. If you buy a few vouchers and sell them quickly, you'll get your
> >>> money
> >>> back quickly, too. Perhaps you and Preston can work something out so
> >>> that
> >>> you only are only trying to sell 2 vouchers at a time or something
> >>> because
> >>> you two go to the same school and will not have to mail these babies back
> >>> and forth. Someone like Cindy or me cannot just meet up with Preston
> >>> like
> >>> that, but maybe we can work that out for you.
> >>>
> >>> Justin
> >>>
> >>> Justin
> >>>
> >>> Justin
> >>>
> >>> Justin M. Salisbury
> >>> Undergraduate Student
> >>> The University Honors Program
> >>> East Carolina University
> >>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
> >>>
> >>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> >>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
> >>> Jewel
> >>> S. [herekittykat2 at gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:33 AM
> >>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
> >>>
> >>> If you do it by requiring the member to buy the vouchers up front to
> >>> sell them, then I am sorry, but I won't be able to buy mroe than one
> >>> or two at the most at a time, if I can afford to buy any up front at
> >>> all. Every dollar I get these days go into bills, groceries, or the
> >>> Disney/convention fund, and I can't afford anything else. Mike and I
> >>> are struggling as it is.
> >>>
> >>> Buying 10 vouchers for $70 is a total imposibility for me, even though
> >>> I know I stand a very good chance of selling them, or Mike selling
> >>> them, just by talking to people while he is going back and forth to
> >>> school or I am running errands. But to purchase them myself ahead of
> >>> time? There is no way I could do that.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, thank you, Cindy, that makes perfect sense to me now. I think I
> >>> was having a 'well duh' minute.
> >>>
> >>> On 10/7/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu> wrote:
> >>>> Right, thank you. It's just cleaner the way I propose we try it. I
> >>>> mean,
> >>>> if we give those vouchers to a member without having the member pay up
> >>>> front, we have to go through the tricky process of waiting until the
> >>>> tickets
> >>>> sell to balance our checkbook. If there's no financial incentive to the
> >>>> member to sell the tickets, they won't be as motivated to sell them.
> >>>> This
> >>>> is just human nature and applies to everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> Justin M. Salisbury
> >>>> Undergraduate Student
> >>>> The University Honors Program
> >>>> East Carolina University
> >>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
> >>>>
> >>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> >>>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
> >>>> ________________________________________
> >>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
> >>>> Cala
> >>>> Estes [cala.estes at gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:21 PM
> >>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that's a good idea Justin. I don't know how well other people
> >>>> are going to like the idea of sending off money, but I think if you
> >>>> stress that they should only buy as much as they feel they can sell,
> >>>> it might put them more at ease.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/6/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Please note- I made that proposal provided that the tickets work at all
> >>>>> Krispy Kreme locations. Not too many people in Charlotte are going to
> >>>>> want
> >>>>> to buy tickets that only work at a Raleigh Krispy Kreme.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Justin M. Salisbury
> >>>>> Undergraduate Student
> >>>>> The University Honors Program
> >>>>> East Carolina University
> >>>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> >>>>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
> >>>>> ________________________________________
> >>>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
> >>>>> Salisbury, Justin Mark [SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu]
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:56 PM
> >>>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I certainly agree with Cindy's interpretation of the options. My
> >>>>> personal
> >>>>> belief is that we're best off buying a set number of tickets up front
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> distributing them to members to sell. I don't think many people are
> >>>>> going
> >>>>> to buy tickets from someone they don't know well if they can't get the
> >>>>> tickets from the seller on the spot. In other words, I think that I
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> only be able to sell tickets to people who know me well because others
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> not trust that they would ever see me again for me to give them the
> >>>>> tickets.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think that having a station set up with actual doughnuts may be fun,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> think it would be what's called a "skinny rabbit." We shouldn't hunt
> >>>>> skinny
> >>>>> rabbits because there's not a lot of meat on their bones. Plus, I
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> hate for us to buy more doughnuts than we can sell that day. I'm sure
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> vouchers will last longer than the doughnuts themselves, you know? I
> >>>>> think
> >>>>> buying vouchers with NCABS money and mailing them to members to sell is
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> key. We have to then make sure that our members actually sell them so
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> we can get the money back. When I was a sighted kid selling candy bars
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> little league, the players all had to pay the full amount of money that
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> expected to receive from selling the candy bars when receiving the case
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> candy bars. It gave us the incentive to actively sell the candy bars
> >>>>> because it was the only way for us to get our money back. I don't
> >>>>> think
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> NCABS member would have a hard time selling 20 or 25 vouchers. Would
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> all agree with running our fundraiser similarly to the little league
> >>>>> ones
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> described?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If we let members commit to selling a certain number of tickets, they
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> send us the money, we will send them the tickets, and they will sell
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> tickets.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does anybody else have ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Justin
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Justin M. Salisbury
> >>>>> Undergraduate Student
> >>>>> The University Honors Program
> >>>>> East Carolina University
> >>>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> >>>>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
> >>>>> ________________________________________
> >>>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
> >>>>> Cindy
> >>>>> Bennett [clb5590 at gmail.com]
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:33 PM
> >>>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think what Preston is saying is that we can sell the tickets 2 ways.
> >>>>> We can either purchase the tickets from Krispy Kreme and sell them, or
> >>>>> we can take orders from people who are interested in buying a ticket,
> >>>>> and then take that list of people to Krispy Kreme and buy a ticket for
> >>>>> every person who has given us money. The advantage to purchasing the
> >>>>> tickets beforehand is that once we interact with buyers, we don't have
> >>>>> to arrange to see them again, but we also run the risk of purchasing
> >>>>> too many tickets which would then be a cost to NCABS. The advantage to
> >>>>> taking orders from people who want to buy a ticket is that NCABS won't
> >>>>> buy too many tickets, but the disadvantage is that we have to talk to
> >>>>> people multiple times, we have to take their order and collect their
> >>>>> money, and meet up with them again to give them their actual ticket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The third option would be for NCABS to purchase actual doughnuts and
> >>>>> sell
> >>>>> them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I personally believe that we should set up a station and run it for a
> >>>>> few mornings. Perhaps a place on NC State's campus would be good, but
> >>>>> i understand sometimes campus's have rules about noncampus orgs
> >>>>> selling stuff, so maybe we could find a place right off campus, or we
> >>>>> could set up a station where cars would be driving out of an apartment
> >>>>> complex in the morning, or where people would be getting on the bus. I
> >>>>> think we should also buy tickets and give each member some that they
> >>>>> must sell. That way, once they make the sale, we have the money, and
> >>>>> there isn't need to meet up again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Preston, you might have answered these questions, and I'm sorry if you
> >>>>> have, but is there an expiration date on the tickets? Also, can these
> >>>>> tickets be redemed at any Krispy Kreme? If so, that would be awesome,
> >>>>> because otherwise, members outside of Raleigh can't really help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, and Jewel, i hope that clears up some of your confusion. If
> >>>>> not, please let me know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cindy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/5/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Maybe I'm just being a dunce, but that made absolutely no sense to
> >>>>>> me...how are the three ways different? We buy tickets and sell them,
> >>>>>> but you want to do another way to start...I don't understand what that
> >>>>>> other way is. I think I'm just being a total dunce, so please be
> >>>>>> patient with me!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/5/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We can sell any of three ways. We can sell tickets for a free dozen
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> original glazed doughnuts, or we can presell with money up front, or
> >>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> presell without money. I have order forms but if we sell tickets we
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> pay out of pocket to Krispy Kreme first. If we chooses the presell
> >>>>>>> option
> >>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>> can collect at least some of the money first to minamize the risk out
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>> treasury. If we sell pver a hindred dozens our price goes down to
> >>>>>>> three
> >>>>>>> dollars a dozen, and we make three dollars a dozen proffit.
> >>>>>>> Preston S Johnson
> >>>>>>> psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:09:20 -0400
> >>>>>>>> From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> To: ncabs at nfbnet.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Do individuals pre-order dozens? Do you pay for them before you sell
> >>>>>>>> them, or how is it done? Where do we get the tickets to sell? I'm a
> >>>>>>>> bit confused about how to get started with this. I would like to
> >>>>>>>> start
> >>>>>>>> selling the vouchers for ddozen donuts, though. I think this is a
> >>>>>>>> wonderful fundraiser and am ready to get started on it, but am just
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> bit confused about how to get started. Can y ou explain, please,
> >>>>>>>> Preston?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/3/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> > I have included order forms for krispy kreme fundraisers, as
> >>>>>>>> > attachments.
> >>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> ~Jewel
> >>>>>>>> Check out my blog about accessibility for the blind!
> >>>>>>>> Treasure Chest for the Blind: http://blindtreasurechest.blogspot.com
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