[Ncabs] more krispy kreme

Fri Oct 8 21:38:58 UTC 2010

If i prepay does that mean that i will have to send a particular
amount of money to Sean then Preston will have to send me the amount
of vouchers i pay for? And we would pay $6.50 for each which is the
selling price right?

I can commit to 10 vouchers.

Cindy

On 10/8/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu> wrote:
> I think this is all great, guys.  I think we can manage to sell 100 vouchers
> without too much difficulty.  Let's first figure out how many people are
> able to pre-pay for the vouchers to sell them.  Count me in on that list.
>
> I understand Jewel's challenges and totally respect them.  We should all do
> what we can reasonably do.
>
> Happy Columbus Day Weekend!
>
> Justin
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Undergraduate Student
> The University Honors Program
> East Carolina University
> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>
> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
> ________________________________________
> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
> psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu [psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:21 AM
> To: ncabs mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>
> Ok, first, to answer your question Cindy, yes if we sell vouchers or tickets
> they are redeemable at any Krispy Kreme locations. Unfortunately they will
> not have our NCABS info printed on them, but we if someone wants to
> volunteer to write that on the vouchers, I say "Go for it!" As far as how
> much do we pay for the ticket, there is a slight discrepency on that issue.
> If we sell over one hundred doughnuts we we only have to pay three dollars a
> dozen. That would be a proffit of at least three hundred dollars from one
> fundraiser. I have heard back from the head of the student activities at
> Eake Tech, and she wants more info but it looks positive. She is asking
> about the date of the event, and how much space I would need. She is off
> Monday and Tuesday, but I will be contact with her next week.
> Preston
>
>> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 18:03:50 -0400
>> From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>> To: ncabs at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>
>> Cindy,
>> Good point...if Preston gets the go-ahead for the table at Wake Tech,
>> I'll definitely be in on that, and maybe we could do it at NC State,
>> too. Any update on that, Preston?
>>
>> If I remember right, we pay $3.50 per ticket, and sell them for $6, so
>> we have a profit of $2.50 per ticket. 10 vouchers sold would give
>> NCABS a profit of $25. It's a good deal, and I hope we can do the
>> table at colleges. It'll be good advertisement for NCABS, also, since
>> I know there are blidn students who don't know about NCABS or aren't
>> sure about it.
>>
>> On 10/7/10, Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Jewel, i think you bring up some good points. However, i know that we
>> > will do other fund raisers. I know Preston is already working on
>> > organizing a day to sell doughnuts at Wake Tech. Maybe you could help
>> > him with this. I think that not everyone has to be willing to put out
>> > money for this to be successful. We need help in many different ways,
>> > and we are appreciative that you are so willing to help. We would
>> > definitely not want to cause anyone to compromise their basic needs,
>> > so just know that if a fund raiser or activity comes up and you aren't
>> > able to participate fully, we appreciate your willingness and know
>> > that you will definitely step up when another opportunity arises.
>> >
>> > I am involved in several organizations, and I have to do this all the
>> > time. None of us can do everything, so I understand.
>> >
>> > Out of curiosity, how much do we pay Krispy Kreme for the tickets?
>> >
>> > Cindy
>> >
>> > On 10/7/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Dear Justin and others,
>> >> Even at $6, it is a high price for someone who is on a fixed income
>> >> and trying to save for a vacation/convention for nxt year with the
>> >> little bit that is left over after bills and groceries. $6 can pay for
>> >> two meals' worth of groceries. $12 (two vouchers) would almost pay for
>> >> a month's pass for the bus system.
>> >>
>> >> The only way I could see myself being able to do the pre-paid vouchers
>> >> is if someone bought them, then lent them to me and/or Mike, we sell
>> >> them, and we return the money to the person who lent them, similar to
>> >> what you were saying, Justin. Preston, would you consider doing such?
>> >> Or Dasha, maybe Amama (Lusi) would consider sponsoring me by
>> >> purchasing a few vouchers for me at a time? Once two vouchers are
>> >> purchased for me, I could sell them, then buy two more with that
>> >> money, and continue like that. The group would continue to get profit,
>> >> and I would work on just the $12 or so that is lent to me for the
>> >> purpose.
>> >>
>> >> I just can't see myself being able to purchase vouchers and continue
>> >> to not have that money for other things. It's a matter of being on a
>> >> very low income. According to government designations, I am below the
>> >> poverty line, and I am struggling quite a bit. I know you guys
>> >> understand struggling from your own experiences, but these are tough
>> >> times for me and Mike, especially since Food Stamps has denied us more
>> >> than $15 per month each...$15 is not going to get nothing these days
>> >> as far as food...so we're paying grocery bills out of pocket,
>> >> $300/month. After bills and groceries, we have just enough to set
>> >> aside for next year's trip and buy Mike's monthly pass and have some
>> >> money for me to buy day passes if I want to get out of the house. I'm
>> >> not trying to rant; I'm just trying to impress no you guys that some
>> >> people simply don't have the money to buy these things. In high
>> >> school, it was the same way for me. I grew up in a family that was
>> >> just above the poverty line and we would have struggled much more if
>> >> we didn't live on a family farm, where we grew much of our vegetables
>> >> and raised chickens and goats for food, so grocery bills were low. But
>> >> when it came to the candy bar fundraisers, I was unable to participate
>> >> because my parents couldn't spare the $20 for the box. Fundraisers
>> >> like that leave out the people who live with very little money, who
>> >> would be willing and able to sell if they could just sell them first
>> >> and send the money after.
>> >>
>> >> Just my thoughts,
>> >> Jewel
>> >>
>> >> On 10/7/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> We're selling them for $6 each, not $10 each. A regular dozen at
>> >>> Krispy
>> >>> Kreme is about $7.50, which is why there is an incentive for people to
>> >>> buy
>> >>> our vouchers.
>> >>>
>> >>> I see your concern, Jewel, but what happens when we buy a bunch of
>> >>> vouchers,
>> >>> give them to a member, and never hear from that member again? If we
>> >>> adopt
>> >>> that policy, it's guaranteed to happen at least once. I'm not saying
>> >>> that
>> >>> because I don't trust particular people in our group; it's just how
>> >>> people
>> >>> are. If you buy a few vouchers and sell them quickly, you'll get your
>> >>> money
>> >>> back quickly, too. Perhaps you and Preston can work something out so
>> >>> that
>> >>> you only are only trying to sell 2 vouchers at a time or something
>> >>> because
>> >>> you two go to the same school and will not have to mail these babies
>> >>> back
>> >>> and forth. Someone like Cindy or me cannot just meet up with Preston
>> >>> like
>> >>> that, but maybe we can work that out for you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Justin
>> >>>
>> >>> Justin
>> >>>
>> >>> Justin
>> >>>
>> >>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> >>> Undergraduate Student
>> >>> The University Honors Program
>> >>> East Carolina University
>> >>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>> >>>
>> >>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>> >>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
>> >>> ________________________________________
>> >>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>> >>> Jewel
>> >>> S. [herekittykat2 at gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:33 AM
>> >>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>> >>>
>> >>> If you do it by requiring the member to buy the vouchers up front to
>> >>> sell them, then I am sorry, but I won't be able to buy mroe than one
>> >>> or two at the most at a time, if I can afford to buy any up front at
>> >>> all. Every dollar I get these days go into bills, groceries, or the
>> >>> Disney/convention fund, and I can't afford anything else. Mike and I
>> >>> are struggling as it is.
>> >>>
>> >>> Buying 10 vouchers for $70 is a total imposibility for me, even though
>> >>> I know I stand a very good chance of selling them, or Mike selling
>> >>> them, just by talking to people while he is going back and forth to
>> >>> school or I am running errands. But to purchase them myself ahead of
>> >>> time? There is no way I could do that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, thank you, Cindy, that makes perfect sense to me now. I think I
>> >>> was having a 'well duh' minute.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 10/7/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> Right, thank you. It's just cleaner the way I propose we try it. I
>> >>>> mean,
>> >>>> if we give those vouchers to a member without having the member pay
>> >>>> up
>> >>>> front, we have to go through the tricky process of waiting until the
>> >>>> tickets
>> >>>> sell to balance our checkbook. If there's no financial incentive to
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> member to sell the tickets, they won't be as motivated to sell them.
>> >>>> This
>> >>>> is just human nature and applies to everyone.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> >>>> Undergraduate Student
>> >>>> The University Honors Program
>> >>>> East Carolina University
>> >>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>> >>>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
>> >>>> ________________________________________
>> >>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> Cala
>> >>>> Estes [cala.estes at gmail.com]
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:21 PM
>> >>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think that's a good idea Justin. I don't know how well other people
>> >>>> are going to like the idea of sending off money, but I think if you
>> >>>> stress that they should only buy as much as they feel they can sell,
>> >>>> it might put them more at ease.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10/6/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Please note- I made that proposal provided that the tickets work at
>> >>>>> all
>> >>>>> Krispy Kreme locations. Not too many people in Charlotte are going
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> want
>> >>>>> to buy tickets that only work at a Raleigh Krispy Kreme.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> >>>>> Undergraduate Student
>> >>>>> The University Honors Program
>> >>>>> East Carolina University
>> >>>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a
>> >>>>> thought
>> >>>>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
>> >>>>> ________________________________________
>> >>>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> Salisbury, Justin Mark [SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu]
>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:56 PM
>> >>>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I certainly agree with Cindy's interpretation of the options. My
>> >>>>> personal
>> >>>>> belief is that we're best off buying a set number of tickets up
>> >>>>> front
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> distributing them to members to sell. I don't think many people are
>> >>>>> going
>> >>>>> to buy tickets from someone they don't know well if they can't get
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> tickets from the seller on the spot. In other words, I think that I
>> >>>>> would
>> >>>>> only be able to sell tickets to people who know me well because
>> >>>>> others
>> >>>>> would
>> >>>>> not trust that they would ever see me again for me to give them the
>> >>>>> tickets.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think that having a station set up with actual doughnuts may be
>> >>>>> fun,
>> >>>>> but
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> think it would be what's called a "skinny rabbit." We shouldn't hunt
>> >>>>> skinny
>> >>>>> rabbits because there's not a lot of meat on their bones. Plus, I
>> >>>>> would
>> >>>>> hate for us to buy more doughnuts than we can sell that day. I'm
>> >>>>> sure
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> vouchers will last longer than the doughnuts themselves, you know? I
>> >>>>> think
>> >>>>> buying vouchers with NCABS money and mailing them to members to sell
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> key. We have to then make sure that our members actually sell them
>> >>>>> so
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> we can get the money back. When I was a sighted kid selling candy
>> >>>>> bars
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> little league, the players all had to pay the full amount of money
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>> expected to receive from selling the candy bars when receiving the
>> >>>>> case
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> candy bars. It gave us the incentive to actively sell the candy bars
>> >>>>> because it was the only way for us to get our money back. I don't
>> >>>>> think
>> >>>>> any
>> >>>>> NCABS member would have a hard time selling 20 or 25 vouchers. Would
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> all agree with running our fundraiser similarly to the little league
>> >>>>> ones
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> described?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If we let members commit to selling a certain number of tickets,
>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>> will
>> >>>>> send us the money, we will send them the tickets, and they will sell
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> tickets.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Does anybody else have ideas?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Justin
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> >>>>> Undergraduate Student
>> >>>>> The University Honors Program
>> >>>>> East Carolina University
>> >>>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a
>> >>>>> thought
>> >>>>> without accepting it." -Aristotle
>> >>>>> ________________________________________
>> >>>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> Cindy
>> >>>>> Bennett [clb5590 at gmail.com]
>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:33 PM
>> >>>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think what Preston is saying is that we can sell the tickets 2
>> >>>>> ways.
>> >>>>> We can either purchase the tickets from Krispy Kreme and sell them,
>> >>>>> or
>> >>>>> we can take orders from people who are interested in buying a
>> >>>>> ticket,
>> >>>>> and then take that list of people to Krispy Kreme and buy a ticket
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> every person who has given us money. The advantage to purchasing the
>> >>>>> tickets beforehand is that once we interact with buyers, we don't
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> to arrange to see them again, but we also run the risk of purchasing
>> >>>>> too many tickets which would then be a cost to NCABS. The advantage
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> taking orders from people who want to buy a ticket is that NCABS
>> >>>>> won't
>> >>>>> buy too many tickets, but the disadvantage is that we have to talk
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> people multiple times, we have to take their order and collect their
>> >>>>> money, and meet up with them again to give them their actual ticket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The third option would be for NCABS to purchase actual doughnuts and
>> >>>>> sell
>> >>>>> them.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I personally believe that we should set up a station and run it for
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> few mornings. Perhaps a place on NC State's campus would be good,
>> >>>>> but
>> >>>>> i understand sometimes campus's have rules about noncampus orgs
>> >>>>> selling stuff, so maybe we could find a place right off campus, or
>> >>>>> we
>> >>>>> could set up a station where cars would be driving out of an
>> >>>>> apartment
>> >>>>> complex in the morning, or where people would be getting on the bus.
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> think we should also buy tickets and give each member some that they
>> >>>>> must sell. That way, once they make the sale, we have the money, and
>> >>>>> there isn't need to meet up again.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Preston, you might have answered these questions, and I'm sorry if
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> have, but is there an expiration date on the tickets? Also, can
>> >>>>> these
>> >>>>> tickets be redemed at any Krispy Kreme? If so, that would be
>> >>>>> awesome,
>> >>>>> because otherwise, members outside of Raleigh can't really help.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks, and Jewel, i hope that clears up some of your confusion. If
>> >>>>> not, please let me know.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cindy
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 10/5/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Maybe I'm just being a dunce, but that made absolutely no sense to
>> >>>>>> me...how are the three ways different? We buy tickets and sell
>> >>>>>> them,
>> >>>>>> but you want to do another way to start...I don't understand what
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>>> other way is. I think I'm just being a total dunce, so please be
>> >>>>>> patient with me!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 10/5/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We can sell any of three ways. We can sell tickets for a free
>> >>>>>>> dozen
>> >>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> original glazed doughnuts, or we can presell with money up front,
>> >>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>> can
>> >>>>>>> presell without money. I have order forms but if we sell tickets
>> >>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> pay out of pocket to Krispy Kreme first. If we chooses the presell
>> >>>>>>> option
>> >>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>> can collect at least some of the money first to minamize the risk
>> >>>>>>> out
>> >>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> our
>> >>>>>>> treasury. If we sell pver a hindred dozens our price goes down to
>> >>>>>>> three
>> >>>>>>> dollars a dozen, and we make three dollars a dozen proffit.
>> >>>>>>> Preston S Johnson
>> >>>>>>> psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:09:20 -0400
>> >>>>>>>> From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>> To: ncabs at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Do individuals pre-order dozens? Do you pay for them before you
>> >>>>>>>> sell
>> >>>>>>>> them, or how is it done? Where do we get the tickets to sell? I'm
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> bit confused about how to get started with this. I would like to
>> >>>>>>>> start
>> >>>>>>>> selling the vouchers for ddozen donuts, though. I think this is a
>> >>>>>>>> wonderful fundraiser and am ready to get started on it, but am
>> >>>>>>>> just
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> bit confused about how to get started. Can y ou explain, please,
>> >>>>>>>> Preston?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 10/3/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu
>> >>>>>>>> <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>> > I have included order forms for krispy kreme fundraisers, as
>> >>>>>>>> > attachments.
>> >>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> ~Jewel
>> >>>>>>>> Check out my blog about accessibility for the blind!
>> >>>>>>>> Treasure Chest for the Blind:
>> >>>>>>>> http://blindtreasurechest.blogspot.com
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>> > clb5590 at gmail.com
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