[NFB-Braille-Discussion] braille formatting issue

[Jasmyn Po]

Has anyone had their subscription of the Braille monitor in Braille? I change my subscription of the Braille monitor from audio to Braille so I can get more practice with reading Braille

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  On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:03 PM, Donald Winiecki via NFB-Braille-Discussion<nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:   Braille Formats (2013), section 6.3 addresses image descriptions. That
section is oriented to images in print documents that could require the
transcriber to write a note or add information that is not included as text
in the document, but which is evident to a print reader.

Regardless, I think we can take some guidance from that section of BF.

First, because Paul's example is a bit afield of things specifically
addressed in BF, I suggest it would be relevant to include a note on the
Transcriber's Notes page that describes the situation and how it is
addressed in the document.

Paul notes that in this document the media designer included the tag
"image" followed by the alt-text to be verbalized by a screen reader. I
will suggest this is analogous to the inclusion of an image-type label in
transcribers note indicators as shown in BF 6.3.1. In the example in BF
6.3.1 the word "Photograph" is the image-type label, with the image caption
following and outside of the transcriber note indicators. With this in mind
I might suggest replacing the word "image" in Paul's document with a more
accurate type label for each illustration, for example, "chart,"
"photograph," "drawing," "Venn diagram," etc. some sort of separator
(Debbie Brown suggests a colon) and then include the alt-text.

I can agree with Debbie Brown that all of this should be included in
transcriber's note indicators because all of it is not part of the document
as experienced by the print reader. The note included on the Transcriber's
Notes page would clarify this application and formatting.

Second -- and in contrast -- because all of it *is* actually part of the
document -- though not part of the document as experienced by a print
reader -- I wonder if it could be appropriate to choose a
transcriber-defined typeform indicator (UEB 9.5) to mark the image tag and
alt-text this admittedly unique case. Of course, if this were done, we
would have to conspire to agree that the image tag and alt-text are a
"typeform." I will be quick to say this is something I am not very ready to
defend.

If someone put my back to the wall, I think I would go with the first path,
above. Other than adding a note on the Transcriber's Notes page, this is
consistent with Paul's and Debbie's ideas.

I'm always happy to have more voices in the mix, so I look forward to just
that in this thread!

Best,

_don [image: ]



On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:03 AM Paul Ferrara via NFB-Braille-Discussion <
nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> All,
> If you are transcribing a brochure or lesson that has alt text, my
> understanding is that it is best to surround that alt text with
> transcriber's note indicators; however, in the file I received, I see the
> word "image" in brackets right before the alt text.
> Do you think it is best to keep the word "image" and the brackets since it
> describes that the upcoming text is alt text or would it be better to
> remove the word and the brackets and just surround the alt text with
> transcriber's notes?
> To reiterate, the word "Image" with the brackets is there to indicate alt
> text; that is something the designer did; I can keep or remove it.
> Which is best?
> Thank you.
>
> Paul Ferrara, CPACC, ADS, Certified Braille Transcriber
> Communications Accessibility Editor, Dot6
> American Printing House
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