[NFB-Braille-Discussion] braille formatting issue

Thu May 6 22:20:45 UTC 2021

I read Braille Monitor in braille every month.  You get practice reading a lot more different signs than you usually find in novels, at least the ones I read.
 All the different typeforms and other signs. 

Debbie Gabe
NFB of Hawaii

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> On May 6, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Jasmyn Po via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had their subscription of the Braille monitor in Braille? I change my subscription of the Braille monitor from audio to Braille so I can get more practice with reading Braille
> 
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>  On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:03 PM, Donald Winiecki via NFB-Braille-Discussion<nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:   Braille Formats (2013), section 6.3 addresses image descriptions. That
> section is oriented to images in print documents that could require the
> transcriber to write a note or add information that is not included as text
> in the document, but which is evident to a print reader.
> 
> Regardless, I think we can take some guidance from that section of BF.
> 
> First, because Paul's example is a bit afield of things specifically
> addressed in BF, I suggest it would be relevant to include a note on the
> Transcriber's Notes page that describes the situation and how it is
> addressed in the document.
> 
> Paul notes that in this document the media designer included the tag
> "image" followed by the alt-text to be verbalized by a screen reader. I
> will suggest this is analogous to the inclusion of an image-type label in
> transcribers note indicators as shown in BF 6.3.1. In the example in BF
> 6.3.1 the word "Photograph" is the image-type label, with the image caption
> following and outside of the transcriber note indicators. With this in mind
> I might suggest replacing the word "image" in Paul's document with a more
> accurate type label for each illustration, for example, "chart,"
> "photograph," "drawing," "Venn diagram," etc. some sort of separator
> (Debbie Brown suggests a colon) and then include the alt-text.
> 
> I can agree with Debbie Brown that all of this should be included in
> transcriber's note indicators because all of it is not part of the document
> as experienced by the print reader. The note included on the Transcriber's
> Notes page would clarify this application and formatting.
> 
> Second -- and in contrast -- because all of it *is* actually part of the
> document -- though not part of the document as experienced by a print
> reader -- I wonder if it could be appropriate to choose a
> transcriber-defined typeform indicator (UEB 9.5) to mark the image tag and
> alt-text this admittedly unique case. Of course, if this were done, we
> would have to conspire to agree that the image tag and alt-text are a
> "typeform." I will be quick to say this is something I am not very ready to
> defend.
> 
> If someone put my back to the wall, I think I would go with the first path,
> above. Other than adding a note on the Transcriber's Notes page, this is
> consistent with Paul's and Debbie's ideas.
> 
> I'm always happy to have more voices in the mix, so I look forward to just
> that in this thread!
> 
> Best,
> 
> _don [image: ]
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:03 AM Paul Ferrara via NFB-Braille-Discussion <
>> nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> If you are transcribing a brochure or lesson that has alt text, my
>> understanding is that it is best to surround that alt text with
>> transcriber's note indicators; however, in the file I received, I see the
>> word "image" in brackets right before the alt text.
>> Do you think it is best to keep the word "image" and the brackets since it
>> describes that the upcoming text is alt text or would it be better to
>> remove the word and the brackets and just surround the alt text with
>> transcriber's notes?
>> To reiterate, the word "Image" with the brackets is there to indicate alt
>> text; that is something the designer did; I can keep or remove it.
>> Which is best?
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Paul Ferrara, CPACC, ADS, Certified Braille Transcriber
>> Communications Accessibility Editor, Dot6
>> American Printing House
>> 1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206
>> Main 502 895 2396
>> pferrara at aph.org
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