[NFB-Braille-Discussion] Braille screen input on iPhone Se 2022

[Sanho Steele-Louchart]

Kelsey:

It probably took me 3 weeks back in 2015 to become really comfortable
with the various hand positions required for BSI. I'm confident that
your hands will get used to it.

On 3/27/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
<nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> How do you prevent strain on your pinky when holding the phone like that?
> When I try to hold the phone like that, it hurts my pinky really bad.
>
> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>
>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 10:49 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Now that makes infinitely more sense. By speaker, I thought you meant
>> speaker phone versus just throug hthe earpiece.
>>
>> I frame the phone with my thumbs on top and my smallest fingers on
>> bottom, then type with my index, middle, and ring.
>>
>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Those of you who aren’t having the mute issue, how are you holding your
>>> device? I hold my phone so that it’s cradled between my palms, so in this
>>> position, my palm covers the bottom speaker.
>>>
>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 10:03 PM, Ellen Ringlein via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I use Braille screen input on my iPhone 8 all the time with and without
>>>> earbuds and have no problems. The same was true for my 6S. I have mine
>>>> set
>>>> for screen away mode and use it that way if the screen is pointing away
>>>> from me or if the phone is on a table face up. I have no problem fitting
>>>> my fingers on the screen, but then I have relatively small hands. I have
>>>> never experienced the problems with muting you describe.
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>>
>>>> Ellen
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sanho
>>>> Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 4:40 PM
>>>> To: NFB Braille Discussion List <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Braille screen input on iPhone Se
>>>> 2022
>>>>
>>>> Kelsey,
>>>>
>>>> I also use screen away mode, and my hand being in front of the phone
>>>> hasn't muted it in the seven years I've been using BSI unless I was on a
>>>> call. In fact, I can flip my phone over onto its face without it muting.
>>>> Intriguing. Does anyone here know of a relevant setting?
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, if I have wired earbuds plugged in, I can keep my palm far
>>>> enough away from the phone that it doesn't interfere with the lightning
>>>> port and so doesn't affect my typing. It might be worth experimenting
>>>> with
>>>> hand position to see if there's a comfortable solution for you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Yeah I know about the active call situation. My palm seems to mute the
>>>>> speaker even when not on a call. It makes typing very interesting as I
>>>>> can’t hear what VoiceOver is saying. If I use earbuds, the cord gets in
>>>>> the way of
>>>>> me holding the phone.   -
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My SE only turns off the speaker while using BSI if I'm typing while
>>>>>> actively in a call. I use earbuds if I need to type in that situation.
>>>>>> Otherwise, BSI on the SE is as easy as it has always been on the
>>>>>> smaller models.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello, I would like to get the new iPhone Se that just came out to
>>>>>>> replace my aging iPhone 8 plus. However, I’m concerned that the
>>>>>>> screen size will be too small for braille screen input. I use away
>>>>>>> mode. I always end up muting the speaker when typing on my 8 plus,
>>>>>>> so there’s no doubt I’ll have the same issue with the Se. I do not
>>>>>>> want to have to go through the struggles of learning a phone without
>>>>>>> a home button just so I can have a bigger screen for braille screen
>>>>>>> input, so for those of you who have an Se, what tips can you offer
>>>>>>> to make braille screen input of a chore to use on the smaller screen
>>>>>>> and is there any way to avoid the mute issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Sanho
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