[NFB-Braille-Discussion] Braille screen input on iPhone Se 2022

Sun Mar 27 17:22:07 UTC 2022

As for how long have I been using BSI? Maybe since around the end of 2015 (around mid-November), when I got an iPhone 4S.

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Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 27 mar 2022, a la(s) 11:04 a.m., Sanho Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> escribió:
> 
> Kelsey:
> 
> It probably took me 3 weeks back in 2015 to become really comfortable
> with the various hand positions required for BSI. I'm confident that
> your hands will get used to it.
> 
>> On 3/27/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> How do you prevent strain on your pinky when holding the phone like that?
>> When I try to hold the phone like that, it hurts my pinky really bad.
>> 
>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 10:49 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Now that makes infinitely more sense. By speaker, I thought you meant
>>> speaker phone versus just throug hthe earpiece.
>>> 
>>> I frame the phone with my thumbs on top and my smallest fingers on
>>> bottom, then type with my index, middle, and ring.
>>> 
>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Those of you who aren’t having the mute issue, how are you holding your
>>>> device? I hold my phone so that it’s cradled between my palms, so in this
>>>> position, my palm covers the bottom speaker.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 10:03 PM, Ellen Ringlein via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use Braille screen input on my iPhone 8 all the time with and without
>>>>> earbuds and have no problems. The same was true for my 6S. I have mine
>>>>> set
>>>>> for screen away mode and use it that way if the screen is pointing away
>>>>> from me or if the phone is on a table face up. I have no problem fitting
>>>>> my fingers on the screen, but then I have relatively small hands. I have
>>>>> never experienced the problems with muting you describe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ellen
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sanho
>>>>> Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 4:40 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Braille Discussion List <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Braille screen input on iPhone Se
>>>>> 2022
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kelsey,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also use screen away mode, and my hand being in front of the phone
>>>>> hasn't muted it in the seven years I've been using BSI unless I was on a
>>>>> call. In fact, I can flip my phone over onto its face without it muting.
>>>>> Intriguing. Does anyone here know of a relevant setting?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Similarly, if I have wired earbuds plugged in, I can keep my palm far
>>>>> enough away from the phone that it doesn't interfere with the lightning
>>>>> port and so doesn't affect my typing. It might be worth experimenting
>>>>> with
>>>>> hand position to see if there's a comfortable solution for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah I know about the active call situation. My palm seems to mute the
>>>>>> speaker even when not on a call. It makes typing very interesting as I
>>>>>> can’t hear what VoiceOver is saying. If I use earbuds, the cord gets in
>>>>>> the way of
>>>>>> me holding the phone.   -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My SE only turns off the speaker while using BSI if I'm typing while
>>>>>>> actively in a call. I use earbuds if I need to type in that situation.
>>>>>>> Otherwise, BSI on the SE is as easy as it has always been on the
>>>>>>> smaller models.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello, I would like to get the new iPhone Se that just came out to
>>>>>>>> replace my aging iPhone 8 plus. However, I’m concerned that the
>>>>>>>> screen size will be too small for braille screen input. I use away
>>>>>>>> mode. I always end up muting the speaker when typing on my 8 plus,
>>>>>>>> so there’s no doubt I’ll have the same issue with the Se. I do not
>>>>>>>> want to have to go through the struggles of learning a phone without
>>>>>>>> a home button just so I can have a bigger screen for braille screen
>>>>>>>> input, so for those of you who have an Se, what tips can you offer
>>>>>>>> to make braille screen input of a chore to use on the smaller screen
>>>>>>>> and is there any way to avoid the mute issue?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
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>>>>>>> 
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