[NFB-Braille-Discussion] Braille screen input on iPhone Se 2022

Sun Mar 27 18:40:28 UTC 2022

Hold your palms sort of at midpoint; kind of at the level where you charge the phone. Good luck!

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Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 27 mar 2022, a la(s) 11:58 a.m., Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> escribió:
> 
> I’ve been using bSI for about a year and the only position that doesn’t cause extreme pa1n is to cradle the phone between my palms Which mutes the bottom speaker. I guess I’ll have to deal with that issue. 
> 
> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone 
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille  -  --discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Kelsey:
>> 
>> It probably took me 3 weeks back in 2015 to become really comfortable
>> with the various hand positions required for BSI. I'm confident that
>> your hands will get used to it.
>> 
>>> On 3/27/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> How do you prevent strain on your pinky when holding the phone like that?
>>> When I try to hold the phone like that, it hurts my pinky really bad.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 10:49 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Now that makes infinitely more sense. By speaker, I thought you meant
>>>> speaker phone versus just throug hthe earpiece.
>>>> 
>>>> I frame the phone with my thumbs on top and my smallest fingers on
>>>> bottom, then type with my index, middle, and ring.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Those of you who aren’t having the mute issue, how are you holding your
>>>>> device? I hold my phone so that it’s cradled between my palms, so in this
>>>>> position, my palm covers the bottom speaker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 10:03 PM, Ellen Ringlein via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use Braille screen input on my iPhone 8 all the time with and without
>>>>>> earbuds and have no problems. The same was true for my 6S. I have mine
>>>>>> set
>>>>>> for screen away mode and use it that way if the screen is pointing away
>>>>>> from me or if the phone is on a table face up. I have no problem fitting
>>>>>> my fingers on the screen, but then I have relatively small hands. I have
>>>>>> never experienced the problems with muting you describe.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ellen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sanho
>>>>>> Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 4:40 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB Braille Discussion List <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Braille screen input on iPhone Se
>>>>>> 2022
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kelsey,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also use screen away mode, and my hand being in front of the phone
>>>>>> hasn't muted it in the seven years I've been using BSI unless I was on a
>>>>>> call. In fact, I can flip my phone over onto its face without it muting.
>>>>>> Intriguing. Does anyone here know of a relevant setting?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Similarly, if I have wired earbuds plugged in, I can keep my palm far
>>>>>> enough away from the phone that it doesn't interfere with the lightning
>>>>>> port and so doesn't affect my typing. It might be worth experimenting
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> hand position to see if there's a comfortable solution for you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah I know about the active call situation. My palm seems to mute the
>>>>>>> speaker even when not on a call. It makes typing very interesting as I
>>>>>>> can’t hear what VoiceOver is saying. If I use earbuds, the cord gets in
>>>>>>> the way of
>>>>>>> me holding the phone.   -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My SE only turns off the speaker while using BSI if I'm typing while
>>>>>>>> actively in a call. I use earbuds if I need to type in that situation.
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, BSI on the SE is as easy as it has always been on the
>>>>>>>> smaller models.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/22, Kelsey Nicolay via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello, I would like to get the new iPhone Se that just came out to
>>>>>>>>> replace my aging iPhone 8 plus. However, I’m concerned that the
>>>>>>>>> screen size will be too small for braille screen input. I use away
>>>>>>>>> mode. I always end up muting the speaker when typing on my 8 plus,
>>>>>>>>> so there’s no doubt I’ll have the same issue with the Se. I do not
>>>>>>>>> want to have to go through the struggles of learning a phone without
>>>>>>>>> a home button just so I can have a bigger screen for braille screen
>>>>>>>>> input, so for those of you who have an Se, what tips can you offer
>>>>>>>>> to make braille screen input of a chore to use on the smaller screen
>>>>>>>>> and is there any way to avoid the mute issue?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> Sanho
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