[nfb-db] Question

Thu Aug 25 19:24:43 UTC 2011

Please Tell me what HKNC is and how to get in contact with them? Thanks RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Davert" <scottdavert at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question


> Hi heather.
> I agree with you, but was simply stating VR's general stance on this,
> not my own. This comes from working in the field and also my
> experiences as a deaf-blind consumer of these services.
> RJ: I'd check with with your regional rep for HKNC and maybe also with
> the school for the deaf and blind in FL about getting enrolled in a
> class. However, I'll warn you that the only sort of class that ever
> seemed to  benifit me was 1 on 1 with some sort of teacher. I tried
> taking a sign language class at the university where I did my Masters
> program, but it was useless. It was way too visual and the interpreter
> spent more time trying to figure out how to communicate both the
> content and visual  information than she did actually providing it.
>
> Scott
>
> On 8/25/11, Wolsiefer, Heather Elizabeth <hew3793 at uncw.edu> wrote:
>> Scott,
>>
>> Considering the growing number of people in the deaf community itself and
>> how they're so cut-off from the world due to people NOT knowing or being
>> able to sign, it benefits EVERYONE to learn a little if they can. The 
>> person
>> I work with through VR and DSB most often is actually a deaf-blind
>> specialist and she has been amazing with me. Even though I can't sign 
>> very
>> much, having someone who CAN and can understand how I'm feeling is a 
>> MASSIVE
>> help. And while it's true, VR may not care about it unless it has to do 
>> with
>> work, a counselor could at least help locate or find out about an area 
>> where
>> RJ COULD find help. And I'm sorry but regardless of VR's stance on the
>> matter, attitudes like that just piss me off (pardon my swearing). I'm
>> legally blind and deaf and I WANT to learn sign language for myself. 
>> because
>> I feel so BAD when i can't communicate with someone who only signs or 
>> when I
>> can't hear well enough but couldn't have someone sign to/for me because I
>> don't know the language.
>>
>> Rj,
>>
>>  I would check your local community/area for any kind of sign language 
>> group
>> or classes offered. I know some areas offer them free because they want 
>> deaf
>> and hearing people to be able to communicate with each other. More than
>> likely, there would be someone willing to help you and Amanda with your 
>> sign
>> language issue.
>>
>> Heather Wolsiefer
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org [nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Scott Davert [scottdavert at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:08 PM
>> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>
>> It's not up to you to bring it to their attention, it's up to her if
>> she can justify it vocationally. Rehab doesn't care about a
>> relationship like that, they only care about what you need for work.
>> As a blind person, unless you're entering the field of deaf-blindness,
>> what other job would require you to learn sign language?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/25/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Could it binnifit me if I brought this to rehabs attention, or would it 
>>> be
>>> a
>>> waste? RJ
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Scott Davert" <scottdavert at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Even if she did, I'm guessing that the services for the blind and deaf
>>>> were totally separate, as they are in most places.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 8/25/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think Amanda attended the Florida school for the deaf and blind for 
>>>>> a
>>>>> time.
>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>   From: David Sexton
>>>>>   To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:29 AM
>>>>>   Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>   If you have the computer communication, the next step is to use it 
>>>>> to
>>>>> teach each other your various forms of communication. Show something,
>>>>> then
>>>>> write what it means.
>>>>>   It sounds like a great bonding experience to me...
>>>>>
>>>>> David Sexton
>>>>> +91 9400223351
>>>>>   On 8/25/2011 7:56 PM, Janice Toothman wrote:
>>>>>     RJ Why doesn't she learn braille? as and intermediate step. 
>>>>> Although
>>>>> I
>>>>> do think that as a deaf blind person myself that she should learn
>>>>> tactile
>>>>> ASL or at least the manual alphabet. I know that is frustrating
>>>>> communicating between the mother as an intermediary but if your
>>>>> relationship
>>>>> is going to last she will put the effort into learning some 
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> communication.
>>>>>     Janice and Destiny
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 8/24/2011 9:39 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>       My name is RJ Sandefur. I'm totally blind, but I'm in a
>>>>> relationship
>>>>> with a visually empired deaf girl named Amanda. Amanda has some sight 
>>>>> in
>>>>> other words, she's not a braille reader. Her mother does the signing 
>>>>> for
>>>>> us,
>>>>> and this makes me feel really uncomfortible. Will Amanda have to learn
>>>>> tactile sign language in order to comunicate with me?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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