[nfb-db] Question

Thu Aug 25 20:10:38 UTC 2011

Helen Keller National Center
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Scott
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question

> Please Tell me what HKNC is and how to get in contact with them? Thanks RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Davert" <scottdavert at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
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>> Hi heather.
>> I agree with you, but was simply stating VR's general stance on this,
>> not my own. This comes from working in the field and also my
>> experiences as a deaf-blind consumer of these services.
>> RJ: I'd check with with your regional rep for HKNC and maybe also with
>> the school for the deaf and blind in FL about getting enrolled in a
>> class. However, I'll warn you that the only sort of class that ever
>> seemed to  benifit me was 1 on 1 with some sort of teacher. I tried
>> taking a sign language class at the university where I did my Masters
>> program, but it was useless. It was way too visual and the interpreter
>> spent more time trying to figure out how to communicate both the
>> content and visual  information than she did actually providing it.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/25/11, Wolsiefer, Heather Elizabeth <hew3793 at uncw.edu> wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> Considering the growing number of people in the deaf community itself 
>>> and
>>> how they're so cut-off from the world due to people NOT knowing or being
>>> able to sign, it benefits EVERYONE to learn a little if they can. The 
>>> person
>>> I work with through VR and DSB most often is actually a deaf-blind
>>> specialist and she has been amazing with me. Even though I can't sign 
>>> very
>>> much, having someone who CAN and can understand how I'm feeling is a 
>>> MASSIVE
>>> help. And while it's true, VR may not care about it unless it has to do 
>>> with
>>> work, a counselor could at least help locate or find out about an area 
>>> where
>>> RJ COULD find help. And I'm sorry but regardless of VR's stance on the
>>> matter, attitudes like that just piss me off (pardon my swearing). I'm
>>> legally blind and deaf and I WANT to learn sign language for myself. 
>>> because
>>> I feel so BAD when i can't communicate with someone who only signs or 
>>> when I
>>> can't hear well enough but couldn't have someone sign to/for me because 
>>> I
>>> don't know the language.
>>>
>>> Rj,
>>>
>>>  I would check your local community/area for any kind of sign language 
>>> group
>>> or classes offered. I know some areas offer them free because they want 
>>> deaf
>>> and hearing people to be able to communicate with each other. More than
>>> likely, there would be someone willing to help you and Amanda with your 
>>> sign
>>> language issue.
>>>
>>> Heather Wolsiefer
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org [nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Scott Davert [scottdavert at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:08 PM
>>> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>
>>> It's not up to you to bring it to their attention, it's up to her if
>>> she can justify it vocationally. Rehab doesn't care about a
>>> relationship like that, they only care about what you need for work.
>>> As a blind person, unless you're entering the field of deaf-blindness,
>>> what other job would require you to learn sign language?
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 8/25/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Could it binnifit me if I brought this to rehabs attention, or would it 
>>>> be
>>>> a
>>>> waste? RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Scott Davert" <scottdavert at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Even if she did, I'm guessing that the services for the blind and deaf
>>>>> were totally separate, as they are in most places.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/25/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I think Amanda attended the Florida school for the deaf and blind for 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>   From: David Sexton
>>>>>>   To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
>>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:29 AM
>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>>   If you have the computer communication, the next step is to use it 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> teach each other your various forms of communication. Show something,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> write what it means.
>>>>>>   It sounds like a great bonding experience to me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Sexton
>>>>>> +91 9400223351
>>>>>>   On 8/25/2011 7:56 PM, Janice Toothman wrote:
>>>>>>     RJ Why doesn't she learn braille? as and intermediate step. 
>>>>>> Although
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> do think that as a deaf blind person myself that she should learn
>>>>>> tactile
>>>>>> ASL or at least the manual alphabet. I know that is frustrating
>>>>>> communicating between the mother as an intermediary but if your
>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>> is going to last she will put the effort into learning some 
>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>> communication.
>>>>>>     Janice and Destiny
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 8/24/2011 9:39 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>       My name is RJ Sandefur. I'm totally blind, but I'm in a
>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>> with a visually empired deaf girl named Amanda. Amanda has some sight 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> other words, she's not a braille reader. Her mother does the signing 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> us,
>>>>>> and this makes me feel really uncomfortible. Will Amanda have to 
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>> tactile sign language in order to comunicate with me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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