[nfb-db] Question

Thu Aug 25 20:15:14 UTC 2011

Thanks brother. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Davert" <scottdavert at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question


> Helen Keller National Center
> www.hknc.org
> That web page has all the info you need to get in contact with them. Click 
> on the regional representatives link and find the one for your area.
>
> Scott
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>
>
>> Please Tell me what HKNC is and how to get in contact with them? Thanks 
>> RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Scott Davert" <scottdavert at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>
>>
>>> Hi heather.
>>> I agree with you, but was simply stating VR's general stance on this,
>>> not my own. This comes from working in the field and also my
>>> experiences as a deaf-blind consumer of these services.
>>> RJ: I'd check with with your regional rep for HKNC and maybe also with
>>> the school for the deaf and blind in FL about getting enrolled in a
>>> class. However, I'll warn you that the only sort of class that ever
>>> seemed to  benifit me was 1 on 1 with some sort of teacher. I tried
>>> taking a sign language class at the university where I did my Masters
>>> program, but it was useless. It was way too visual and the interpreter
>>> spent more time trying to figure out how to communicate both the
>>> content and visual  information than she did actually providing it.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 8/25/11, Wolsiefer, Heather Elizabeth <hew3793 at uncw.edu> wrote:
>>>> Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Considering the growing number of people in the deaf community itself 
>>>> and
>>>> how they're so cut-off from the world due to people NOT knowing or 
>>>> being
>>>> able to sign, it benefits EVERYONE to learn a little if they can. The 
>>>> person
>>>> I work with through VR and DSB most often is actually a deaf-blind
>>>> specialist and she has been amazing with me. Even though I can't sign 
>>>> very
>>>> much, having someone who CAN and can understand how I'm feeling is a 
>>>> MASSIVE
>>>> help. And while it's true, VR may not care about it unless it has to do 
>>>> with
>>>> work, a counselor could at least help locate or find out about an area 
>>>> where
>>>> RJ COULD find help. And I'm sorry but regardless of VR's stance on the
>>>> matter, attitudes like that just piss me off (pardon my swearing). I'm
>>>> legally blind and deaf and I WANT to learn sign language for myself. 
>>>> because
>>>> I feel so BAD when i can't communicate with someone who only signs or 
>>>> when I
>>>> can't hear well enough but couldn't have someone sign to/for me because 
>>>> I
>>>> don't know the language.
>>>>
>>>> Rj,
>>>>
>>>>  I would check your local community/area for any kind of sign language 
>>>> group
>>>> or classes offered. I know some areas offer them free because they want 
>>>> deaf
>>>> and hearing people to be able to communicate with each other. More than
>>>> likely, there would be someone willing to help you and Amanda with your 
>>>> sign
>>>> language issue.
>>>>
>>>> Heather Wolsiefer
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org [nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>>>> Of
>>>> Scott Davert [scottdavert at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:08 PM
>>>> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>>
>>>> It's not up to you to bring it to their attention, it's up to her if
>>>> she can justify it vocationally. Rehab doesn't care about a
>>>> relationship like that, they only care about what you need for work.
>>>> As a blind person, unless you're entering the field of deaf-blindness,
>>>> what other job would require you to learn sign language?
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 8/25/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Could it binnifit me if I brought this to rehabs attention, or would 
>>>>> it be
>>>>> a
>>>>> waste? RJ
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Scott Davert" <scottdavert at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if she did, I'm guessing that the services for the blind and 
>>>>>> deaf
>>>>>> were totally separate, as they are in most places.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/25/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I think Amanda attended the Florida school for the deaf and blind 
>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>   From: David Sexton
>>>>>>>   To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
>>>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:29 AM
>>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>>>   If you have the computer communication, the next step is to use it 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> teach each other your various forms of communication. Show 
>>>>>>> something,
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> write what it means.
>>>>>>>   It sounds like a great bonding experience to me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Sexton
>>>>>>> +91 9400223351
>>>>>>>   On 8/25/2011 7:56 PM, Janice Toothman wrote:
>>>>>>>     RJ Why doesn't she learn braille? as and intermediate step. 
>>>>>>> Although
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> do think that as a deaf blind person myself that she should learn
>>>>>>> tactile
>>>>>>> ASL or at least the manual alphabet. I know that is frustrating
>>>>>>> communicating between the mother as an intermediary but if your
>>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>>> is going to last she will put the effort into learning some 
>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>> communication.
>>>>>>>     Janice and Destiny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 8/24/2011 9:39 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>       My name is RJ Sandefur. I'm totally blind, but I'm in a
>>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>>> with a visually empired deaf girl named Amanda. Amanda has some 
>>>>>>> sight in
>>>>>>> other words, she's not a braille reader. Her mother does the signing 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> us,
>>>>>>> and this makes me feel really uncomfortible. Will Amanda have to 
>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>> tactile sign language in order to comunicate with me?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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