[Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...

Susan Roe dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
Sun Jan 17 12:31:38 UTC 2010 

Right now, I only use it for caps and scarfs.  I'd like to try a lap throw, 
making strips and sewing them together.  I have also made a very long 
stocking cap in stripes of black and purple, my husband is a Raven's fan, 
then he uses the long tail as a scarf for his neck.  Way back when we were 
kids, you could buy the same scarfs, but they narrowed at the end.  I like 
them the same width because they are nicer to snuggle your neck down into.

The turm knitting rake or lap loom was a turm that the colonials used for 
them.  supposedly, they started children on them before they learned to use 
the larger floor looms.

Susan
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marianne" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...


> That type is exactly what I have but it is a Knifty Knitter.  What do you 
> make on it.  The finished product is thicker than the ones I make with the 
> Knifty Knitter.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>
>
>> One of my rectangular looms is made of wood and you wrap it with the 
>> figure eight method across the gap that runs the inside length of the 
>> loom.  This loom is also called a knitting rake.  I picked it up as a kit 
>> from one of the colonial houses in Virginia Beach when we lived down 
>> there.  The house was called Lynnhaven House.  That was my first knitting 
>> loom to learn on.
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marianne" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>>
>>
>>>I do also.  I have the circular looms, 4 different sizes of long looms 
>>>and a loom where you go back and forth across a narrow rectangular loom 
>>>in a figure 8 pattern.  There are several different stitches you can make 
>>>by rapping the yarn around multiple times and other techniques.  I 
>>>haven't been working with them lately.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I do, I have 3 or 4 different sizes.  I also have 5 rectangular looms as 
>>>>well.  I am very interested in the triangle looms too.
>>>>
>>>> Susan
>>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:33 AM
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have worked a lot on the circle knitting looms like the Knifty 
>>>>> Knitter. Does anyone use this product?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers, 
>>>>> Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:10 PM
>>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>
>>>>> You all have me comfused, now.  I was away for a while, sick and am 
>>>>> trying to catch up.  When you did the hairpin lace project, did you 
>>>>> actually use a beading loom, like you are talking about?  It sounds 
>>>>> like you have not done a loom class, yet, but that is what I thought 
>>>>> that lace clase was all about and it started this topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Terry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Laurie Porter [mailto:freespirit1 at tds.net]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:57 PM
>>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan:
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds interestingI've always used the loom for seed beading, but 
>>>>> never thought of using  it for larger beads. Off the top of my head, 
>>>>> I'm thinking that you would have to space the warp far apart enough to 
>>>>> accomodate the width of the beads. I wonder too, if you use raw hide 
>>>>> for the worp threads, whether it's suppleness when stretched tight 
>>>>> could effect the tension. You got me thinking about other types of 
>>>>> worps to play with like hemp threads for example. Also, do your native 
>>>>> american pattern books have word charts?
>>>>> There are tons of native american designs with word charts at 
>>>>> www.bead-patterns .com. There is enough stuff there to keep a loom 
>>>>> beader going til rapture.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also would like to know when you did your loom pieces, what you did 
>>>>> with the worp threads once the piece was done. I thought if I did a 
>>>>> basic bead looming class that I would teach how to use the worps at 
>>>>> the bottom for adding fringe so that you'd only have to weave in the 
>>>>> top worp threads. I think weaving those worp threads back into the 
>>>>> piece will be the most challenging for beginners, and I guess that's 
>>>>> why I hadn't done a loom piece in years.  Larger beads with wider 
>>>>> spaces between worps might be a good way for beginner blind students 
>>>>> to get a feeling for it. It's easy to accidentally  pick up 2 warp 
>>>>> threads when they are so spaced so closely together.  ----- Original 
>>>>> Message -----
>>>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:27 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, the rawhide my husband used in the past was gotten from Tandy
>>>>>> Leather. Now, I know they use to have catalogs and at one time were
>>>>>> actually on-line, but I don't know what's available now.  Like I 
>>>>>> said,
>>>>>> the project I've been dreaming of is one of these days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would not be done on a traditional beed loom.  I would see if my
>>>>>> sister, who wood carves, could carve me two different 3 foot short
>>>>>> stafs from trees on the farm, with Native American or nature
>>>>>> depictions on the top and bottom 6 inches of each piece.  They would
>>>>>> represent the top and bottom of a loom frame.  The rawhide cord, like
>>>>>> a shoe string, would run from pole to pole virtically.  The air dried
>>>>>> beeds, approximately the width of a dime and maybe 1/4 inch wide,
>>>>>> would be painted whatever colors I'd need and then woven just the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> as on the beed loom.  It would not require increases or decreases, 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> pattern would remain within the number of virtical rows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The books I have are specific to Native American patterns and they go
>>>>>> line by line as you weave from top to bottom.  When I get my hands on
>>>>>> the books again, I will post the names and authors.  I'm not sure if
>>>>>> they could be scanned because there are a lot of pictures.  My 
>>>>>> husband
>>>>>> and sister read 90% of my patterns and I either braille them or type
>>>>>> them into my computer.  I have put them on tape as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this project will take a lot of prep work because of making the beeds
>>>>>> from the air dry clay and getting my sister to carve the posts.  She
>>>>>> charges $50 for her carved canes and walking stafs.  Well worth the 
>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "eileen SCRIVANI" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:20 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Susan:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few questions about the patterns & the cords you use.  I like the
>>>>>>> idea of using rawhide for the loom, but don't recall ever having 
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>> across them during my on-line searches.  Well, maybe I did but 
>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>> thinking about them for use on the loom.  Are the cords sold 
>>>>>>> on-line?
>>>>>>> If so, do you have the web address?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh yes, are you also using any type of specific thickness of the
>>>>>>> cords for loom projects?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> second, regarding your Native American pattern books, are they books
>>>>>>> that you can scan, or does someone have to read the patterns to you?
>>>>>>> Can you recommend any titles?  I already have the "Beading On A Loom
>>>>>>> Book" by Don Pierce and its a good beginning point that describes
>>>>>>> making a loom, warping and then weaving along with increases & 
>>>>>>> decreases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:12 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also have a beed loom using a coil spring to aline my virtical
>>>>>>>> threads. I got mine several years ago from a Native American shop 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Virginia Beach. You use seed beeds with it and I also have several
>>>>>>>> pattern books with specific beed patterns from several tribes 
>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>> the United States. One of my "one of these days" projects is to go
>>>>>>>> jumbo with one of these beed patterns and make my own beeds out of
>>>>>>>> the air dry clay, larger of course, using rawhide cords for my
>>>>>>>> virtical strands and either a black or clear heavy pound fishing
>>>>>>>> string for the horizontal weaving and come up with a wall tapistry
>>>>>>>> for our log cabin.  Like I said, one of these days. LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "eileen SCRIVANI" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:25 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Terry:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also have a bead loom and seem to recall a few other people on
>>>>>>>>> the list saying they have them, but can't remember who.  Anyway,
>>>>>>>>> the bead loom allows a person to weave using the fine nymo type
>>>>>>>>> thread to create the warp and and either a comb type or set up or
>>>>>>>>> small coil spring creates the correct spacing of these warp
>>>>>>>>> threads.  The warp creates tracks of threads and then you thread 
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> however many beads you like and push the beads into the track. 
>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>> you make your return pass with your large eye needle through the
>>>>>>>>> beads, that will lock the beads into position.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using a loom you can make bands of beads with what ever colors you
>>>>>>>>> like. Then either sew or glue the beads onto some kind of backing
>>>>>>>>> or whatever you want to do with them.  The bead loom is a native
>>>>>>>>> American Indian craft and looms can range at the very simplest for 
>>>>>>>>> ball-park of
>>>>>>>>> $10 and then they go up into the hundreds of dollars.   I have 
>>>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>>> called a "Bear Cub" loom and paid around $30-ish.  You can search
>>>>>>>>> in google for bead loom if you want to find out some additional
>>>>>>>>> info and get ideas on pricing. I've seen a child's type of toy set
>>>>>>>>> on amazon.com for around $10.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>>>>>>>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>>>>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being away for a while.  I have been under the weather
>>>>>>>>>> with muscle spazums and more.  The meds about nocked me out.
>>>>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are these socks, like bed slippers, or are they real socks, done
>>>>>>>>>> with a thin needle.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain what Laurie was talking about when she wrote
>>>>>>>>>> about her beading loom.  I never heard of such a thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Was anyone interested in wrap around bracelets?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any idea where you can find magnetic beads?  They make nice
>>>>>>>>>> magnetic necklaces or wrap around bracelets.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Terry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Krafters Korner [mailto:KraftersKorner at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:42 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well the chat just ended with lots of laughter and discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We talked about our New Year's resolutions for our crafting. We
>>>>>>>>>> decided that buying yarn without a project or plan, even if it is
>>>>>>>>>> wonderful or a good sale, is not real smart. But then we 
>>>>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>>>>> just how much yarn to buy when we come across those have to have
>>>>>>>>>> sales. lol
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We talked about finishing one project before starting another. 
>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned that i would like to have a couple things going, such
>>>>>>>>>> as a dish cloth that is easy to take and do and a larger project
>>>>>>>>>> by my rocker.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We also talked about the sock class that Joyce plans on teaching
>>>>>>>>>> in February.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we solved the yarn problems of the world. But all
>>>>>>>>>> four of us agree that our projects will continue during 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Henrietta
>>>>>>>>>> ~I wish you enough~
>>>>>>>>>>
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