[Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...

Marianne mdenning at cinci.rr.com
Sun Jan 17 16:40:16 UTC 2010 

I think it would make a great thick scarf.  I hate sewing things together. 
That is where I would have problems.
Marianne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...


> Right now, I only use it for caps and scarfs.  I'd like to try a lap 
> throw, making strips and sewing them together.  I have also made a very 
> long stocking cap in stripes of black and purple, my husband is a Raven's 
> fan, then he uses the long tail as a scarf for his neck.  Way back when we 
> were kids, you could buy the same scarfs, but they narrowed at the end.  I 
> like them the same width because they are nicer to snuggle your neck down 
> into.
>
> The turm knitting rake or lap loom was a turm that the colonials used for 
> them.  supposedly, they started children on them before they learned to 
> use the larger floor looms.
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marianne" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>
>
>> That type is exactly what I have but it is a Knifty Knitter.  What do you 
>> make on it.  The finished product is thicker than the ones I make with 
>> the Knifty Knitter.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>>
>>
>>> One of my rectangular looms is made of wood and you wrap it with the 
>>> figure eight method across the gap that runs the inside length of the 
>>> loom.  This loom is also called a knitting rake.  I picked it up as a 
>>> kit from one of the colonial houses in Virginia Beach when we lived down 
>>> there.  The house was called Lynnhaven House.  That was my first 
>>> knitting loom to learn on.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marianne" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I do also.  I have the circular looms, 4 different sizes of long looms 
>>>>and a loom where you go back and forth across a narrow rectangular loom 
>>>>in a figure 8 pattern.  There are several different stitches you can 
>>>>make by rapping the yarn around multiple times and other techniques.  I 
>>>>haven't been working with them lately.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I do, I have 3 or 4 different sizes.  I also have 5 rectangular looms 
>>>>>as well.  I am very interested in the triangle looms too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan
>>>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:33 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Other Looms ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have worked a lot on the circle knitting looms like the Knifty 
>>>>>> Knitter. Does anyone use this product?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers, 
>>>>>> Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:10 PM
>>>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You all have me comfused, now.  I was away for a while, sick and am 
>>>>>> trying to catch up.  When you did the hairpin lace project, did you 
>>>>>> actually use a beading loom, like you are talking about?  It sounds 
>>>>>> like you have not done a loom class, yet, but that is what I thought 
>>>>>> that lace clase was all about and it started this topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Terry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Laurie Porter [mailto:freespirit1 at tds.net]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:57 PM
>>>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That sounds interestingI've always used the loom for seed beading, 
>>>>>> but never thought of using  it for larger beads. Off the top of my 
>>>>>> head, I'm thinking that you would have to space the warp far apart 
>>>>>> enough to accomodate the width of the beads. I wonder too, if you use 
>>>>>> raw hide for the worp threads, whether it's suppleness when stretched 
>>>>>> tight could effect the tension. You got me thinking about other types 
>>>>>> of worps to play with like hemp threads for example. Also, do your 
>>>>>> native american pattern books have word charts?
>>>>>> There are tons of native american designs with word charts at 
>>>>>> www.bead-patterns .com. There is enough stuff there to keep a loom 
>>>>>> beader going til rapture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also would like to know when you did your loom pieces, what you did 
>>>>>> with the worp threads once the piece was done. I thought if I did a 
>>>>>> basic bead looming class that I would teach how to use the worps at 
>>>>>> the bottom for adding fringe so that you'd only have to weave in the 
>>>>>> top worp threads. I think weaving those worp threads back into the 
>>>>>> piece will be the most challenging for beginners, and I guess that's 
>>>>>> why I hadn't done a loom piece in years.  Larger beads with wider 
>>>>>> spaces between worps might be a good way for beginner blind students 
>>>>>> to get a feeling for it. It's easy to accidentally  pick up 2 warp 
>>>>>> threads when they are so spaced so closely together.  ----- Original 
>>>>>> Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:27 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, the rawhide my husband used in the past was gotten from Tandy
>>>>>>> Leather. Now, I know they use to have catalogs and at one time were
>>>>>>> actually on-line, but I don't know what's available now.  Like I 
>>>>>>> said,
>>>>>>> the project I've been dreaming of is one of these days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would not be done on a traditional beed loom.  I would see if my
>>>>>>> sister, who wood carves, could carve me two different 3 foot short
>>>>>>> stafs from trees on the farm, with Native American or nature
>>>>>>> depictions on the top and bottom 6 inches of each piece.  They would
>>>>>>> represent the top and bottom of a loom frame.  The rawhide cord, 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> a shoe string, would run from pole to pole virtically.  The air 
>>>>>>> dried
>>>>>>> beeds, approximately the width of a dime and maybe 1/4 inch wide,
>>>>>>> would be painted whatever colors I'd need and then woven just the 
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> as on the beed loom.  It would not require increases or decreases, 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pattern would remain within the number of virtical rows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The books I have are specific to Native American patterns and they 
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> line by line as you weave from top to bottom.  When I get my hands 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the books again, I will post the names and authors.  I'm not sure if
>>>>>>> they could be scanned because there are a lot of pictures.  My 
>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>> and sister read 90% of my patterns and I either braille them or type
>>>>>>> them into my computer.  I have put them on tape as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this project will take a lot of prep work because of making the 
>>>>>>> beeds
>>>>>>> from the air dry clay and getting my sister to carve the posts.  She
>>>>>>> charges $50 for her carved canes and walking stafs.  Well worth the 
>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "eileen SCRIVANI" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:20 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bead Looms ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Susan:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A few questions about the patterns & the cords you use.  I like the
>>>>>>>> idea of using rawhide for the loom, but don't recall ever having 
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>> across them during my on-line searches.  Well, maybe I did but 
>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>> thinking about them for use on the loom.  Are the cords sold 
>>>>>>>> on-line?
>>>>>>>> If so, do you have the web address?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh yes, are you also using any type of specific thickness of the
>>>>>>>> cords for loom projects?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> second, regarding your Native American pattern books, are they 
>>>>>>>> books
>>>>>>>> that you can scan, or does someone have to read the patterns to 
>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>> Can you recommend any titles?  I already have the "Beading On A 
>>>>>>>> Loom
>>>>>>>> Book" by Don Pierce and its a good beginning point that describes
>>>>>>>> making a loom, warping and then weaving along with increases & 
>>>>>>>> decreases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:12 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also have a beed loom using a coil spring to aline my virtical
>>>>>>>>> threads. I got mine several years ago from a Native American shop 
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> Virginia Beach. You use seed beeds with it and I also have several
>>>>>>>>> pattern books with specific beed patterns from several tribes 
>>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>>> the United States. One of my "one of these days" projects is to go
>>>>>>>>> jumbo with one of these beed patterns and make my own beeds out of
>>>>>>>>> the air dry clay, larger of course, using rawhide cords for my
>>>>>>>>> virtical strands and either a black or clear heavy pound fishing
>>>>>>>>> string for the horizontal weaving and come up with a wall tapistry
>>>>>>>>> for our log cabin.  Like I said, one of these days. LOL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "eileen SCRIVANI" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:25 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Terry:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also have a bead loom and seem to recall a few other people on
>>>>>>>>>> the list saying they have them, but can't remember who.  Anyway,
>>>>>>>>>> the bead loom allows a person to weave using the fine nymo type
>>>>>>>>>> thread to create the warp and and either a comb type or set up or
>>>>>>>>>> small coil spring creates the correct spacing of these warp
>>>>>>>>>> threads.  The warp creates tracks of threads and then you thread 
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> however many beads you like and push the beads into the track. 
>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>> you make your return pass with your large eye needle through the
>>>>>>>>>> beads, that will lock the beads into position.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using a loom you can make bands of beads with what ever colors 
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> like. Then either sew or glue the beads onto some kind of backing
>>>>>>>>>> or whatever you want to do with them.  The bead loom is a native
>>>>>>>>>> American Indian craft and looms can range at the very simplest 
>>>>>>>>>> for ball-park of
>>>>>>>>>> $10 and then they go up into the hundreds of dollars.   I have 
>>>>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>>>> called a "Bear Cub" loom and paid around $30-ish.  You can search
>>>>>>>>>> in google for bead loom if you want to find out some additional
>>>>>>>>>> info and get ideas on pricing. I've seen a child's type of toy 
>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> on amazon.com for around $10.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>>>>>>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being away for a while.  I have been under the weather
>>>>>>>>>>> with muscle spazums and more.  The meds about nocked me out.
>>>>>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are these socks, like bed slippers, or are they real socks, done
>>>>>>>>>>> with a thin needle.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain what Laurie was talking about when she wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> about her beading loom.  I never heard of such a thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Was anyone interested in wrap around bracelets?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea where you can find magnetic beads?  They make nice
>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic necklaces or wrap around bracelets.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Terry
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Krafters Korner [mailto:KraftersKorner at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:42 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] [NFB Krafters Korner] Monday
>>>>>>>>>>> night's chat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well the chat just ended with lots of laughter and discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We talked about our New Year's resolutions for our crafting. We
>>>>>>>>>>> decided that buying yarn without a project or plan, even if it 
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful or a good sale, is not real smart. But then we 
>>>>>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>>>>>> just how much yarn to buy when we come across those have to have
>>>>>>>>>>> sales. lol
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We talked about finishing one project before starting another. 
>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned that i would like to have a couple things going, 
>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>> as a dish cloth that is easy to take and do and a larger project
>>>>>>>>>>> by my rocker.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We also talked about the sock class that Joyce plans on teaching
>>>>>>>>>>> in February.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we solved the yarn problems of the world. But all
>>>>>>>>>>> four of us agree that our projects will continue during 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Henrietta
>>>>>>>>>>> ~I wish you enough~
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
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