[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: braille labeling

Wed Jun 23 23:22:54 UTC 2010

Thanks for your advice. It makes sense, too.
Lynda Lambert
River Road Studio, Since 1976
www.lyndalambert.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles


> Well, maybe too if your life was in upheaval from loosing your sight and 
> maybe you were feeling a little negative towards Braille and all you had 
> to newly learn or things you had to relearn just to get buy from day to 
> day it may not have been the right time for you to learn Braille.  At 
> least you learned Grade I and can perhaps jot down a phone number or mark 
> a bottle or skein of yarn with a Braille label.  All I can tell you is 
> that between both my talking computer & Braille I can tend to all my 
> household business from paying bills on line to processing mail ... all 
> important mail that has to be saved gets  Brailled with who its from, 
> date, amounts, anything that is important to know right off the top when I 
> am looking through envelopes.  So many other ways Braille can be useful I 
> can't list them all.  The talking computer would not be enough on its own 
> for me to take care of all my stuff independantly.  Maybe one day, if you 
> feel like you're having a difficult time finding stuff or keeping 
> organized you will reconsider learning more Braille when the motivation is 
> stronger.  Soap box off ... at least you did give Braille a try.
>
> Eileen
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:49 PM
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE:  needles
>
>> I did have 15 weeks of it at the school I went to for Personal Adjustment 
>> to Blindness. Then, I did Course I through Hadley. I started Course 2, 
>> but after doing a couple of lessons, I quit. It was so time intensive, 
>> and I just felt like I would never use it for anything.
>>
>> Lynda Lambert
>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> www.lyndalambert.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>>> Lynda:
>>>
>>> I'm in complete agreement with Cindy & Terry.  I learned Braille when I 
>>> was 18 years old after having lost my sight & having been totally 
>>> sighted. Today, I could not live without it on a number of different 
>>> levels.  So, if there is not any type of physical/nerve problem that is 
>>> preventing you from learning it give it a try.  When I work on my 
>>> knitting patterns of a more complex design there is nothing like having 
>>> a hard copy printout that I can keep referring back to.  If a pattern is 
>>> simple then I can get away with listening to it being read by a 
>>> notetaker or Victor Reader Stream, but if it has a more intricate stitch 
>>> pattern or patterns & lots of shaping I need a hard copy.  Besides, its 
>>> more comfortable when I put my feet up in bed, put on a talking book, 
>>> take out my knitting and have a Braille print out to confirm directions 
>>> on than having to switch my listening mode to another file or device to 
>>> hear knitting instructions read to me.
>>>
>>> If you have any way of learning Braille even just Grade 1 try it.  When 
>>> I learned how to read & write Braille I was totally fascinated by it. 
>>> It was like learning a new language.  It only took me about 6 months to 
>>> learn both grades 1 & 2 and how to both read and write it.
>>>
>>> . If you get Braille skills under your belt there is absolutely no 
>>> reason why you will not be able to go back to all the types of patterns 
>>> you used to like knitting before loosing your sight.  Don't let anyone 
>>> tell you it is difficult or that you can't learn it.  It is as 
>>> complicated as you want to make it and since it is a very logical system 
>>> I have no doubt that you will catch on quickly.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Eileen
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
>>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE:  needles
>>>
>>>> Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As a very 
>>>> visual
>>>> learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in braille that I 
>>>> need
>>>> to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
>>>>
>>>> I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut apart each of 
>>>> the
>>>> lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A paper clip 
>>>> marks
>>>> which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around in my bag.
>>>> Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an audio 
>>>> version
>>>> of the pattern.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy S.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> River Woman
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
>>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eileen,
>>>>> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get messed
>>>>> up and have not
>>>>> been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the gym where my
>>>>> friend fixes it
>>>>> for me. I do want to be able to do this again by myself. I gave up on
>>>>> Braille as I just do not see it as something that I need to
>>>>> do. I learned
>>>>> the alpahabet and then took course 1 through Hadley, and then
>>>>> into course 2
>>>>> decided it was a waste of my time since I do everything with
>>>>> electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert River Road Studio, Since
>>>>> 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
>>>>> able to see
>>>>> >well  enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
>>>>> I got used to using
>>>>> > touch to know what I was doing.   If you practice, it isn't
>>>>> hard to feel
>>>>> > what is going on.  I consider myself very visual as I visualize the
>>>>> > stitches
>>>>> > in my mind, but I identify them by touch.
>>>>> > I'm sure you can do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
>>>>> I have a hard
>>>>> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
>>>>> knitting, I know
>>>>> > what
>>>>> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
>>>>> where I am and
>>>>> > what needs to be done.)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Happy krafting.
>>>>> > --le
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi Eileen,
>>>>> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
>>>>> years old.
>>>>> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
>>>>> stuff, as I
>>>>> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
>>>>> friend for
>>>>> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
>>>>> not now. So,
>>>>> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get me going.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
>>>>> is 30 miles
>>>>> > away.
>>>>> > I will probably order one on line.
>>>>> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
>>>>> calendar. And, if
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
>>>>> let me know.
>>>>> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Lynda
>>>>> > Lynda Lambert
>>>>> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>>>> > www.lyndalambert.com
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Lynda:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
>>>>> shops, but
>>>>> >> they might have to special order them for you.  They are
>>>>> used mostly
>>>>> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
>>>>> this frightens
>>>>> >> a lot of people away from them.  I suppose to that since they
>>>>> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
>>>>> stock them.  If
>>>>> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
>>>>> Pattern Works.
>>>>> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
>>>>> them to be a
>>>>> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Eileen
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
>>>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Size 000, OH My Word!  That is downright frightening. I am up for
>>>>> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads up in
>>>>> >>> advance. Lynda
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
>>>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>>>> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
>>>>> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving a class in
>>>>> >>>>September  on how to do a life line.  Patternworks does have the
>>>>> >>>>needle she is  suggesting and I thought if anyone was
>>>>> poking around
>>>>> >>>>a yarn shop this  summer and
>>>>> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
>>>>> the info:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000   price is: $18
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Joyce  Kane
>>>>> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>>> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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