[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles

River Woman riverwoman at zoominternet.net
Thu Jun 24 00:27:07 UTC 2010 

You have hit it on the head - I see it as being soooooo slow, and that I 
would take forever and never be very good at it. I do not enjoy it at all 
and at this point in my life I feel like there is no reason I need to do it. 
I think to be proficient, meaning that I could stand and give a lecture 
using braille, would take many years to achieve. I can't imagine someone my 
age really becoming proficient at it.  I can "read" books and knit at the 
same time now, and I like that a lot.  I think that if I want to learn 
something, it would be to concentrate on a foreign language that I really 
want to learn, just for my own satisfaction. Lynda
Lynda Lambert
River Road Studio, Since 1976
www.lyndalambert.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles


> Lynda, I was a rehabilitation teacher before I became a TVI.  Many older 
> adults do not learn braille.  This is for several reasons.  It is harder 
> to learn new skills as we get older and our fingers lose some of their 
> sensativity through the years.  If you were determined to learn braille I 
> would tell you to go for it but if you want to focus on other areas more I 
> think that is a good idea too.  If you are really interested in learning 
> braille there may be a rehabilitation teacher in your area who can help 
> you learn it.
>
> I have been a braille reader too and could not live without it but I 
> understand your feelings too.
> Marianne Denning
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
>>I am laughing - probably so.
>>
>> Lynda Lambert
>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> www.lyndalambert.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>>> I'm thinking Sahar is gonna have some words of wisdom for you again. 
>>> *grin
>>>
>>> Cindy Zimmer
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River Woman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:00 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>>
>>> Since I was sighted until I was 64 years old, Braille is really not so
>>> appealing to me. I am sure if I learned it as a child, that would be 
>>> very
>>> different. Right now, I want to do things in theleast amount of time
>>> possible, and I can see that really learning Braille would take so much
>>> time, and at my age, it is just so much more efficient to use technology 
>>> for
>>> everything. I am almost 67 now, so have had to learn so much in a short
>>> time, I just decided not to do this. Lynda
>>> Lynda Lambert
>>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>>
>>>
>>>> Did you ever think of a note taker.  Then you would have voice and
>>>> refreshable braille.  The braille is more distinct than regular 
>>>> braille.
>>>> If you were in dought of a symbol, you could check it with the speech. 
>>>> I
>>>> have been reading braille since second grade and do not know where I 
>>>> would
>>>> be with out it.  I love braille.
>>>> I have my helmit pattern on the computer and one embossed copy at home.
>>>> If the braille copy gets lost or damaged, I can emboss another copy to
>>>> follow.
>>>> It is only recently, I am learning to emboss, and I love it!
>>>>
>>>> Terry P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>>>
>>>> Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As a very 
>>>> visual
>>>> learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in braille that I
>>>> need to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
>>>>
>>>> I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut apart each of 
>>>> the
>>>> lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A paper clip 
>>>> marks
>>>> which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around in my bag.
>>>> Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an audio
>>>> version of the pattern.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy S.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
>>>>> Woman
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
>>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eileen,
>>>>> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get messed up and
>>>>> have not been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the gym where my
>>>>> friend fixes it for me. I do want to be able to do this again by
>>>>> myself. I gave up on Braille as I just do not see it as something that
>>>>> I need to do. I learned the alpahabet and then took course 1 through
>>>>> Hadley, and then into course 2 decided it was a waste of my time since
>>>>> I do everything with electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert River Road
>>>>> Studio, Since
>>>>> 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
>>>>> able to see
>>>>> >well  enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
>>>>> I got used to using
>>>>> > touch to know what I was doing.   If you practice, it isn't
>>>>> hard to feel
>>>>> > what is going on.  I consider myself very visual as I visualize the
>>>>> > stitches in my mind, but I identify them by touch.
>>>>> > I'm sure you can do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
>>>>> I have a hard
>>>>> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
>>>>> knitting, I know
>>>>> > what
>>>>> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
>>>>> where I am and
>>>>> > what needs to be done.)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Happy krafting.
>>>>> > --le
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi Eileen,
>>>>> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
>>>>> years old.
>>>>> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
>>>>> stuff, as I
>>>>> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
>>>>> friend for
>>>>> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
>>>>> not now. So,
>>>>> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get me going.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
>>>>> is 30 miles
>>>>> > away.
>>>>> > I will probably order one on line.
>>>>> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
>>>>> calendar. And, if
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
>>>>> let me know.
>>>>> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Lynda
>>>>> > Lynda Lambert
>>>>> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>>>> > www.lyndalambert.com
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Lynda:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
>>>>> shops, but
>>>>> >> they might have to special order them for you.  They are
>>>>> used mostly
>>>>> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
>>>>> this frightens
>>>>> >> a lot of people away from them.  I suppose to that since they
>>>>> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
>>>>> stock them.  If
>>>>> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
>>>>> Pattern Works.
>>>>> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
>>>>> them to be a
>>>>> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Eileen
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
>>>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Size 000, OH My Word!  That is downright frightening. I am up for
>>>>> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads up in
>>>>> >>> advance. Lynda
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
>>>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>>>> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
>>>>> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving a class in
>>>>> >>>>September  on how to do a life line.  Patternworks does have the
>>>>> >>>>needle she is  suggesting and I thought if anyone was
>>>>> poking around
>>>>> >>>>a yarn shop this  summer and
>>>>> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
>>>>> the info:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000   price is: $18
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Joyce  Kane
>>>>> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>>> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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