[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
Sahar Husseini
sahar at inebraska.com
Sat Jun 26 13:06:05 UTC 2010
Marianne,
The reason so many people have trouble confusing letters on the slate is because they think they need to reverse and write backwards. I know because I was one of those people. I had to change the way I think about it. You see, having learned Braille as a child, I didn't learn by dots, but by shapes. It's hard to explain. I didn't start thinking in dots until I had to teach Braille. Then, I had to totally change the way I thought, and it took a while to change a lifelong pattern. All you have to remember when you write is the following:
When you write, you start on the right, and 1 2 3 are on the right. Having said that, once you know your dots, when you think of the D or F, don't think of the shape. D is always 1 4 5 whether you're reading or writing it. The difference is that when you write, 1 2 3 are on the right. Hope that makes sense. In the middle of writing this, I realized how off topic it is, but I just couldn't make myself not send it. *smile* You know what they say: It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission. Everyone now can yell at me.
Warm regards,
Sahar Husseini
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----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Denning
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
It is only when I use a slate and styllus that I get them confused. I was
very stubborn and wouldn't work on learning to use it when I was young. I
learned to read braille before I learned to write it and then I focused on
the brailler more than the slate and styllus.
Marianne Denning
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>D and F I don't have trouble with as the F sort of has the same shape as a
> capital print F and the D the top of a capital print D. The I and E
> though....I am forever mixing them up.
>
>
>
> Dixie
>
> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of qubit
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:13 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
> I think of it this way -- for remembering "of" and "with" in braille --
> The computer braille meaning of those symbols is open paren and close
> paren.
>
> So think, open paren is "of" and close paren is "with", and you can
> remember
>
> which comes first by alphabetical order.
> You know, I get d and f mixed up too, or at least I used to. Think of the
> forward pointing one being f for forward, and also the lower cell version
> is
>
> the exclamation point. They are also numbers 4 and 6. I still have to
> stop
>
> and think when I'm brailling my credit cards with those numbers. e and i
> also can be a pain.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
>
> I have been a braille reader since I was 11 and read it very well but when
> I
> use a slate and styllus I really have to think about the letters "d" and
> "f"
> and the contractions for the words "of" and "with." It amazes me wen I
> have
> that problem.
>
> Marianne Denning
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
>
>>I am taking Hadley lessons for Braille writing right now. My next class I
>> think is for grade 2. I remember the contracted letters like ing, and
>> for
>> and things like that. It is the contracted words like cd for could that
>> make me a bit nuts! Some day it will sink into this very thick head of
>> mine.
>>
>>
>> I was just thinking of reading a brailed pattern line by line. I think
>> it
>> might be possible for me to keep track of what row I am on better using
>> Braille? I could do this by marking the line. Maybe by punching an
>> earring through at the row I am on, or clipping a safety pin to the page
>> or
>> something like that.
>> . I will have to write out a pattern for myself sometime and see how it
>> works for me.
>>
>>
>> Dixie
>>
>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen
>> Scrivani
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:21 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>>
>> Dixie:
>>
>> I'm not a speed reader by any means nor have I ever been. I am however,
>> an
>>
>> accurate reader which is more important than speed. I love listening to
>> my
>> audio books, but there is for certain things nothing like Braille. Even
>> for
>>
>> labeling every thing from mail, cd's, yarn & other bead supplies knowing
>> grade 2 Braille is a benefit since by contracting you can reduce the
>> amount
>> of writing space to make notes on things. Then to I get bills like my
>> phone
>>
>> & water bills in Braille & my bank statements as well.
>>
>> Eileen
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:53 PM
>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>>
>>> As a person with fairly recent sight loss, I use Braille occasionally.
>>> I
>>> learned grade 1 right after losing my sight, 6 years ago, but grade 2
>>> was
>>> a
>>> struggle. I have labeled my spices, some light switches for the outside
>>> lights, some bottles in the bathroom, where I don't want my ID mate to
>>> be
>>> exposed to the moisture, and those kinds of things. Other than that I
>>> count
>>> on my ID Mate for most identification of household cleaners, pantry
>>> items
>>> and that kind of thing. I have started taking Braille courses again
>>> from
>>> Hadley. I say I read at a second grade level. Painfully slowly, one
>>> word
>>> at a time, but it is reading. I have to say when someone said that I
>>> was
>>> illiterate since I could no longer read for myself, I have to admit I
>>> was
>>> a
>>> bit indignant.
>>>
>>> I hope to be able to use Braille more efficiently, the idea of labeling
>>> my
>>> yarn is a definite hope. Braille numbers on my bead bottles certainly
>>> is
>>> a
>>> valuable use of Braille, but for reading, I count on my Jaws to jabber
>>> at
>>> me. I can much more efficiently find information in my computer than
>>> rifling through a bunch of Brailed papers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dixie
>>>
>>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Blindhands at aol.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:01 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>>>
>>> I prefer to listen to a pattern directions on my computer in a doc
>>> file.
>>> That way I can listen word by word, immediately put a note in it or
>>> mark
>>> an
>>>
>>> X where I am if the phone rings or I stop. I save the doc file as a
>>> separate file from my original one and entitle the file as working on
>>> sweater, ,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> To each their own way.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
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