[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
slery
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Tue Jun 29 02:45:46 UTC 2010
Yes, Buffa is in Kentucky. She is still teaching at the rehab center here
and was my teacher. Let me know if you want to contact her. We usually room
together for our state conventions.
Cindy S.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sahar Husseini
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:42 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
>
> I know that when I stopped thinking in reverse, it really
> helped me. I was really amazed because at first, I couldn't
> get it when people told me not to think backwards, and then,
> the light went on! It was really something, and a good
> thing, too. Right after I figured it out, I ended up
> changing from computer teacher to Braille teacher. I think
> what helped me was one of the NFB training conferences--I
> think the Dare to Be Remarkable Conference in Baltimore.
> Buffa Hanse, who teaches, oh, I think in Kentucky, just put
> it the right way. Somehow, no one could explain that to me,
> and she said it a certain way, and the light went on. I
> don't know if I ever told her that. I should write to her.
> *smile* Haha, I'm admitting all kinds of things to all kinds
> of people today. I need to go to bed. *laughing*
>
> Warm regards,
> Sahar Husseini
> For hand-crafted, one-of-a-kind jewelry, Please visit my
> Website at www.saharscreations.com And remember, "Obstacles
> don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn
> around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through
> it, or work around it." Michael Jordan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marianne Denning
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
>
> I know that in theory but wen I am actually writing it I
> focus so hard on
> the writing that it goes right out of my head.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sahar Husseini" <sahar at inebraska.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
>
> > Marianne,
> >
> > The reason so many people have trouble confusing letters
> on the slate is
> > because they think they need to reverse and write
> backwards. I know
> > because I was one of those people. I had to change the
> way I think about
> > it. You see, having learned Braille as a child, I didn't
> learn by dots,
> > but by shapes. It's hard to explain. I didn't start
> thinking in dots
> > until I had to teach Braille. Then, I had to totally
> change the way I
> > thought, and it took a while to change a lifelong
> pattern. All you have
> > to remember when you write is the following:
> > When you write, you start on the right, and 1 2 3 are on
> the right.
> > Having said that, once you know your dots, when you think
> of the D or F,
> > don't think of the shape. D is always 1 4 5 whether
> you're reading or
> > writing it. The difference is that when you write, 1 2 3
> are on the
> > right. Hope that makes sense. In the middle of writing
> this, I realized
> > how off topic it is, but I just couldn't make myself not
> send it. *smile*
> > You know what they say: It is easier to ask for
> forgiveness than it is to
> > ask for permission. Everyone now can yell at me.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Sahar Husseini
> > For hand-crafted, one-of-a-kind jewelry, Please visit my
> Website at
> > www.saharscreations.com
> > And remember, "Obstacles don't have to stop you.
> > If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up.
> > Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it."
> > Michael Jordan
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marianne Denning
> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >
> >
> > It is only when I use a slate and styllus that I get
> them confused. I
> > was
> > very stubborn and wouldn't work on learning to use it
> when I was young.
> > I
> > learned to read braille before I learned to write it and
> then I focused
> > on
> > the brailler more than the slate and styllus.
> >
> > Marianne Denning
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >
> >
> > >D and F I don't have trouble with as the F sort of has
> the same shape as
> > a
> > > capital print F and the D the top of a capital print
> D. The I and E
> > > though....I am forever mixing them up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dixie
> > >
> > > ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of qubit
> > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:13 PM
> > > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> > >
> > > I think of it this way -- for remembering "of" and
> "with" in braille --
> > > The computer braille meaning of those symbols is open
> paren and close
> > > paren.
> > >
> > > So think, open paren is "of" and close paren is
> "with", and you can
> > > remember
> > >
> > > which comes first by alphabetical order.
> > > You know, I get d and f mixed up too, or at least I
> used to. Think of
> > the
> > > forward pointing one being f for forward, and also the
> lower cell
> > version
> > > is
> > >
> > > the exclamation point. They are also numbers 4 and 6.
> I still have to
> > > stop
> > >
> > > and think when I'm brailling my credit cards with
> those numbers. e and
> > i
> > > also can be a pain.
> > > --le
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
> > > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been a braille reader since I was 11 and read
> it very well but
> > when
> > > I
> > > use a slate and styllus I really have to think about
> the letters "d"
> > and
> > > "f"
> > > and the contractions for the words "of" and "with."
> It amazes me wen I
> > > have
> > > that problem.
> > >
> > > Marianne Denning
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> > > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> > >
> > >
> > >>I am taking Hadley lessons for Braille writing right
> now. My next
> > class I
> > >> think is for grade 2. I remember the contracted
> letters like ing, and
> > >> for
> > >> and things like that. It is the contracted words
> like cd for could
> > that
> > >> make me a bit nuts! Some day it will sink into this
> very thick head
> > of
> > >> mine.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I was just thinking of reading a brailed pattern line
> by line. I
> > think
> > >> it
> > >> might be possible for me to keep track of what row I
> am on better
> > using
> > >> Braille? I could do this by marking the line.
> Maybe by punching an
> > >> earring through at the row I am on, or clipping a
> safety pin to the
> > page
> > >> or
> > >> something like that.
> > >> . I will have to write out a pattern for myself
> sometime and see how
> > it
> > >> works for me.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dixie
> > >>
> > >> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Eileen
> > >> Scrivani
> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:21 PM
> > >> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> > >>
> > >> Dixie:
> > >>
> > >> I'm not a speed reader by any means nor have I ever
> been. I am
> > however,
> > >> an
> > >>
> > >> accurate reader which is more important than speed.
> I love listening
> > to
> > >> my
> > >> audio books, but there is for certain things nothing
> like Braille.
> > Even
> > >> for
> > >>
> > >> labeling every thing from mail, cd's, yarn & other
> bead supplies
> > knowing
> > >> grade 2 Braille is a benefit since by contracting you
> can reduce the
> > >> amount
> > >> of writing space to make notes on things. Then to I
> get bills like my
> > >> phone
> > >>
> > >> & water bills in Braille & my bank statements as well.
> > >>
> > >> Eileen
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------------------------------
> > >> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:53 PM
> > >> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> > >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> > >>
> > >>> As a person with fairly recent sight loss, I use Braille
> > occasionally.
> > >>> I
> > >>> learned grade 1 right after losing my sight, 6 years
> ago, but grade 2
> > >>> was
> > >>> a
> > >>> struggle. I have labeled my spices, some light
> switches for the
> > outside
> > >>> lights, some bottles in the bathroom, where I don't
> want my ID mate
> > to
> > >>> be
> > >>> exposed to the moisture, and those kinds of things.
> Other than that
> > I
> > >>> count
> > >>> on my ID Mate for most identification of household
> cleaners, pantry
> > >>> items
> > >>> and that kind of thing. I have started taking
> Braille courses again
> > >>> from
> > >>> Hadley. I say I read at a second grade level.
> Painfully slowly, one
> > >>> word
> > >>> at a time, but it is reading. I have to say when
> someone said that I
> > >>> was
> > >>> illiterate since I could no longer read for myself,
> I have to admit I
> > >>> was
> > >>> a
> > >>> bit indignant.
> > >>>
> > >>> I hope to be able to use Braille more efficiently,
> the idea of
> > labeling
> > >>> my
> > >>> yarn is a definite hope. Braille numbers on my bead bottles
> > certainly
> > >>> is
> > >>> a
> > >>> valuable use of Braille, but for reading, I count on
> my Jaws to
> > jabber
> > >>> at
> > >>> me. I can much more efficiently find information in
> my computer than
> > >>> rifling through a bunch of Brailed papers.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Dixie
> > >>>
> > >>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > >>> Blindhands at aol.com
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:01 PM
> > >>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> > >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> > >>>
> > >>> I prefer to listen to a pattern directions on my
> computer in a doc
> > >>> file.
> > >>> That way I can listen word by word, immediately put
> a note in it or
> > >>> mark
> > >>> an
> > >>>
> > >>> X where I am if the phone rings or I stop. I save
> the doc file as a
> > >>> separate file from my original one and entitle the
> file as working on
> > >>> sweater, ,
> > >>> etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> To each their own way.
> > >>>
> > >>> Joyce Kane
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> > >>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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