[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
Sahar Husseini
sahar at inebraska.com
Tue Jun 29 01:41:50 UTC 2010
I know that when I stopped thinking in reverse, it really helped me. I was really amazed because at first, I couldn't get it when people told me not to think backwards, and then, the light went on! It was really something, and a good thing, too. Right after I figured it out, I ended up changing from computer teacher to Braille teacher. I think what helped me was one of the NFB training conferences--I think the Dare to Be Remarkable Conference in Baltimore. Buffa Hanse, who teaches, oh, I think in Kentucky, just put it the right way. Somehow, no one could explain that to me, and she said it a certain way, and the light went on. I don't know if I ever told her that. I should write to her. *smile* Haha, I'm admitting all kinds of things to all kinds of people today. I need to go to bed. *laughing*
Warm regards,
Sahar Husseini
For hand-crafted, one-of-a-kind jewelry, Please visit my Website at
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And remember, "Obstacles don't have to stop you.
If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up.
Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it."
Michael Jordan
----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Denning
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
I know that in theory but wen I am actually writing it I focus so hard on
the writing that it goes right out of my head.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sahar Husseini" <sahar at inebraska.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> Marianne,
>
> The reason so many people have trouble confusing letters on the slate is
> because they think they need to reverse and write backwards. I know
> because I was one of those people. I had to change the way I think about
> it. You see, having learned Braille as a child, I didn't learn by dots,
> but by shapes. It's hard to explain. I didn't start thinking in dots
> until I had to teach Braille. Then, I had to totally change the way I
> thought, and it took a while to change a lifelong pattern. All you have
> to remember when you write is the following:
> When you write, you start on the right, and 1 2 3 are on the right.
> Having said that, once you know your dots, when you think of the D or F,
> don't think of the shape. D is always 1 4 5 whether you're reading or
> writing it. The difference is that when you write, 1 2 3 are on the
> right. Hope that makes sense. In the middle of writing this, I realized
> how off topic it is, but I just couldn't make myself not send it. *smile*
> You know what they say: It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to
> ask for permission. Everyone now can yell at me.
>
> Warm regards,
> Sahar Husseini
> For hand-crafted, one-of-a-kind jewelry, Please visit my Website at
> www.saharscreations.com
> And remember, "Obstacles don't have to stop you.
> If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up.
> Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it."
> Michael Jordan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marianne Denning
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
>
> It is only when I use a slate and styllus that I get them confused. I
> was
> very stubborn and wouldn't work on learning to use it when I was young.
> I
> learned to read braille before I learned to write it and then I focused
> on
> the brailler more than the slate and styllus.
>
> Marianne Denning
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>
>
> >D and F I don't have trouble with as the F sort of has the same shape as
> a
> > capital print F and the D the top of a capital print D. The I and E
> > though....I am forever mixing them up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dixie
> >
> > ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of qubit
> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:13 PM
> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >
> > I think of it this way -- for remembering "of" and "with" in braille --
> > The computer braille meaning of those symbols is open paren and close
> > paren.
> >
> > So think, open paren is "of" and close paren is "with", and you can
> > remember
> >
> > which comes first by alphabetical order.
> > You know, I get d and f mixed up too, or at least I used to. Think of
> the
> > forward pointing one being f for forward, and also the lower cell
> version
> > is
> >
> > the exclamation point. They are also numbers 4 and 6. I still have to
> > stop
> >
> > and think when I'm brailling my credit cards with those numbers. e and
> i
> > also can be a pain.
> > --le
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >
> >
> > I have been a braille reader since I was 11 and read it very well but
> when
> > I
> > use a slate and styllus I really have to think about the letters "d"
> and
> > "f"
> > and the contractions for the words "of" and "with." It amazes me wen I
> > have
> > that problem.
> >
> > Marianne Denning
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >
> >
> >>I am taking Hadley lessons for Braille writing right now. My next
> class I
> >> think is for grade 2. I remember the contracted letters like ing, and
> >> for
> >> and things like that. It is the contracted words like cd for could
> that
> >> make me a bit nuts! Some day it will sink into this very thick head
> of
> >> mine.
> >>
> >>
> >> I was just thinking of reading a brailed pattern line by line. I
> think
> >> it
> >> might be possible for me to keep track of what row I am on better
> using
> >> Braille? I could do this by marking the line. Maybe by punching an
> >> earring through at the row I am on, or clipping a safety pin to the
> page
> >> or
> >> something like that.
> >> . I will have to write out a pattern for myself sometime and see how
> it
> >> works for me.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dixie
> >>
> >> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen
> >> Scrivani
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:21 PM
> >> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >>
> >> Dixie:
> >>
> >> I'm not a speed reader by any means nor have I ever been. I am
> however,
> >> an
> >>
> >> accurate reader which is more important than speed. I love listening
> to
> >> my
> >> audio books, but there is for certain things nothing like Braille.
> Even
> >> for
> >>
> >> labeling every thing from mail, cd's, yarn & other bead supplies
> knowing
> >> grade 2 Braille is a benefit since by contracting you can reduce the
> >> amount
> >> of writing space to make notes on things. Then to I get bills like my
> >> phone
> >>
> >> & water bills in Braille & my bank statements as well.
> >>
> >> Eileen
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:53 PM
> >> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >>
> >>> As a person with fairly recent sight loss, I use Braille
> occasionally.
> >>> I
> >>> learned grade 1 right after losing my sight, 6 years ago, but grade 2
> >>> was
> >>> a
> >>> struggle. I have labeled my spices, some light switches for the
> outside
> >>> lights, some bottles in the bathroom, where I don't want my ID mate
> to
> >>> be
> >>> exposed to the moisture, and those kinds of things. Other than that
> I
> >>> count
> >>> on my ID Mate for most identification of household cleaners, pantry
> >>> items
> >>> and that kind of thing. I have started taking Braille courses again
> >>> from
> >>> Hadley. I say I read at a second grade level. Painfully slowly, one
> >>> word
> >>> at a time, but it is reading. I have to say when someone said that I
> >>> was
> >>> illiterate since I could no longer read for myself, I have to admit I
> >>> was
> >>> a
> >>> bit indignant.
> >>>
> >>> I hope to be able to use Braille more efficiently, the idea of
> labeling
> >>> my
> >>> yarn is a definite hope. Braille numbers on my bead bottles
> certainly
> >>> is
> >>> a
> >>> valuable use of Braille, but for reading, I count on my Jaws to
> jabber
> >>> at
> >>> me. I can much more efficiently find information in my computer than
> >>> rifling through a bunch of Brailed papers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dixie
> >>>
> >>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Blindhands at aol.com
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:01 PM
> >>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
> >>>
> >>> I prefer to listen to a pattern directions on my computer in a doc
> >>> file.
> >>> That way I can listen word by word, immediately put a note in it or
> >>> mark
> >>> an
> >>>
> >>> X where I am if the phone rings or I stop. I save the doc file as a
> >>> separate file from my original one and entitle the file as working on
> >>> sweater, ,
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>> To each their own way.
> >>>
> >>> Joyce Kane
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> >>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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