[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
Marianne Denning
mdenning at cinci.rr.com
Tue Jun 29 15:33:07 UTC 2010
You can have some difficulty if it is really slick plastic or is slightly
curved. The tape sticks to some materails better than others.
Marianne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>I am finding my dimo tape is coming off my beading boxes. Any idea why.
>The only reason I can come up with is maybe the tape was old and maybe I
>need to trash all I have and get some new at convention and start my
>labeling all over again.
> What do you all use for storing your beads? How do you label them?
> I have plastic containers of all sizes and put the color and size of the
> bead. I am not into exotic beads, yet.
> I usually leave them on the string or card until I am ready to use them or
> label them.
> I need to get organized before I take up this craft, again. I was looking
> for my wrapping wire to bring to convention, but can not find it for the
> life of me.
>
> Sahar; Do you have any wire you can bring. I will not have time to get
> any more before convention. I want to try out the tools at convention.
>
> Terry P.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sahar Husseini [mailto:sahar at inebraska.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:52 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
> People always ask me why they should learn the slate and stylus. So many
> young people at the Center come to us not knowing how to write. It breaks
> my heart. I don't understand the logic of teaching children to write with
> a pen but not teaching blind children to write with the slate and stylus.
> They're not the same, no, as some are so fond of arguing, but they're both
> hand-writing. I can't imagine my world without Braille. I am very
> disorganized, and if I didn't have Braille to help me keep the mess sorted
> out, I'm not sure what I'd do. My bead warehouse downstairs would be more
> of an amazing mess without Braille. Sometimes Braille is hard for people
> to learn, but it would be the same if someone had to learn print as an
> adult. It is no different. I just know that I don't want to hire a
> reader or ask my husband about what's what every time I need to design a
> piece of jewelry. I'm not saying I never ask; I'm saying that I make
> every effort to have things labeled so I don't need to ask as often. Oh,
> and I realized just this last year that I really needed to do way more
> labeling. *lol* I thought I'd remember everything, so I'd just put the
> label carnelian with my carnelian beads. Never mind that there are
> bazillions of different carnelian beads that I have, and each from a
> different place, with a different price. Oh, to be 30 again and have the
> good memory I once had. *laughing*
>
> Warm regards,
> Sahar Husseini
> For hand-crafted, one-of-a-kind jewelry, Please visit my Website at
> www.saharscreations.com And remember, "Obstacles don't have to stop you.
> If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up.
> Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it."
> Michael Jordan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MS S TILLETT
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
> I've been a Braille mentor for years. The oldest person I ever taught
> was 78 when she started and she really did learn everything. I worked
> with a friend who was in this thirties but he never really got very good.
> He didn't work on it at home and you can't learn it sitting in my kitchen
> for an hour once a week. He is also loosing his hearing, and if he looses
> it completely, no technology is going to do it. Finally we decided he
> should just consintrate on learning the alphabet so that he can at least
> label things and write notes to himself, but he doesn't really use it. I
> helped him label his CDs and I guess he does read those. I think it is
> just very individual. I would think that learning just enough to write
> things down would be helpful. I have been a Braillle reader all my life,
> and I'm not a speed-queen, but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
>
> I think it is very sad that young people don't think it is necessary
> because of their dependence on technology. Sue
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: River Woman
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
> You have hit it on the head - I see it as being soooooo slow, and that
> I
> would take forever and never be very good at it. I do not enjoy it at
> all
> and at this point in my life I feel like there is no reason I need to
> do it.
> I think to be proficient, meaning that I could stand and give a lecture
> using braille, would take many years to achieve. I can't imagine
> someone my
> age really becoming proficient at it. I can "read" books and knit at
> the
> same time now, and I like that a lot. I think that if I want to learn
> something, it would be to concentrate on a foreign language that I
> really
> want to learn, just for my own satisfaction. Lynda
> Lynda Lambert
> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> www.lyndalambert.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
> > Lynda, I was a rehabilitation teacher before I became a TVI. Many
> older
> > adults do not learn braille. This is for several reasons. It is
> harder
> > to learn new skills as we get older and our fingers lose some of
> their
> > sensativity through the years. If you were determined to learn
> braille I
> > would tell you to go for it but if you want to focus on other areas
> more I
> > think that is a good idea too. If you are really interested in
> learning
> > braille there may be a rehabilitation teacher in your area who can
> help
> > you learn it.
> >
> > I have been a braille reader too and could not live without it but I
> > understand your feelings too.
> > Marianne Denning
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >
> >
> >>I am laughing - probably so.
> >>
> >> Lynda Lambert
> >> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> >> www.lyndalambert.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm thinking Sahar is gonna have some words of wisdom for you
> again.
> >>> *grin
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Zimmer
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
> Woman
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:00 PM
> >>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >>>
> >>> Since I was sighted until I was 64 years old, Braille is really not
> so
> >>> appealing to me. I am sure if I learned it as a child, that would
> be
> >>> very
> >>> different. Right now, I want to do things in theleast amount of
> time
> >>> possible, and I can see that really learning Braille would take so
> much
> >>> time, and at my age, it is just so much more efficient to use
> technology
> >>> for
> >>> everything. I am almost 67 now, so have had to learn so much in a
> short
> >>> time, I just decided not to do this. Lynda
> >>> Lynda Lambert
> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
> >>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> >>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:33 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Did you ever think of a note taker. Then you would have voice and
> >>>> refreshable braille. The braille is more distinct than regular
> >>>> braille.
> >>>> If you were in dought of a symbol, you could check it with the
> speech.
> >>>> I
> >>>> have been reading braille since second grade and do not know where
> I
> >>>> would
> >>>> be with out it. I love braille.
> >>>> I have my helmit pattern on the computer and one embossed copy at
> home.
> >>>> If the braille copy gets lost or damaged, I can emboss another
> copy to
> >>>> follow.
> >>>> It is only recently, I am learning to emboss, and I love it!
> >>>>
> >>>> Terry P.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
> >>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> >>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >>>>
> >>>> Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As a
> very
> >>>> visual
> >>>> learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in braille
> that I
> >>>> need to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut apart each
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>> lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A paper
> clip
> >>>> marks
> >>>> which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around in my
> bag.
> >>>> Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an
> audio
> >>>> version of the pattern.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy S.
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> River
> >>>>> Woman
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
> >>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eileen,
> >>>>> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get messed up
> and
> >>>>> have not been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the gym
> where my
> >>>>> friend fixes it for me. I do want to be able to do this again by
> >>>>> myself. I gave up on Braille as I just do not see it as something
> that
> >>>>> I need to do. I learned the alpahabet and then took course 1
> through
> >>>>> Hadley, and then into course 2 decided it was a waste of my time
> since
> >>>>> I do everything with electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert River Road
> >>>>> Studio, Since
> >>>>> 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> >>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
> >>>>> able to see
> >>>>> >well enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
> >>>>> I got used to using
> >>>>> > touch to know what I was doing. If you practice, it isn't
> >>>>> hard to feel
> >>>>> > what is going on. I consider myself very visual as I visualize
> the
> >>>>> > stitches in my mind, but I identify them by touch.
> >>>>> > I'm sure you can do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
> >>>>> I have a hard
> >>>>> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
> >>>>> knitting, I know
> >>>>> > what
> >>>>> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
> >>>>> where I am and
> >>>>> > what needs to be done.)
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Happy krafting.
> >>>>> > --le
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Hi Eileen,
> >>>>> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
> >>>>> years old.
> >>>>> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
> >>>>> stuff, as I
> >>>>> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
> >>>>> friend for
> >>>>> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
> >>>>> not now. So,
> >>>>> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get me
> going.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
> >>>>> is 30 miles
> >>>>> > away.
> >>>>> > I will probably order one on line.
> >>>>> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
> >>>>> calendar. And, if
> >>>>> > I
> >>>>> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
> >>>>> let me know.
> >>>>> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Lynda
> >>>>> > Lynda Lambert
> >>>>> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
> >>>>> > www.lyndalambert.com
> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> Lynda:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
> >>>>> shops, but
> >>>>> >> they might have to special order them for you. They are
> >>>>> used mostly
> >>>>> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
> >>>>> this frightens
> >>>>> >> a lot of people away from them. I suppose to that since they
> >>>>> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
> >>>>> stock them. If
> >>>>> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
> >>>>> Pattern Works.
> >>>>> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
> >>>>> them to be a
> >>>>> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Eileen
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
> >>>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >>>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>> Size 000, OH My Word! That is downright frightening. I am up
> for
> >>>>> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads up in
> >>>>> >>> advance. Lynda
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
> >>>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> >>>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
> >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> >>>>> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
> >>>>> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving a
> class in
> >>>>> >>>>September on how to do a life line. Patternworks does have
> the
> >>>>> >>>>needle she is suggesting and I thought if anyone was
> >>>>> poking around
> >>>>> >>>>a yarn shop this summer and
> >>>>> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
> >>>>> the info:
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000 price is: $18
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Joyce Kane
> >>>>> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> >>>>> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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