[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking

Tue Jun 29 18:28:27 UTC 2010

E comes first in the alphabet and has a dot 1 where the I has a dot 2 and comes later in the alphabet.  
Easy!

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: Dixie [mailto:blueherons at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:43 PM
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D and F I don't have trouble with as the F sort of has the same shape as a capital print F and the D the top of a capital print D.  The I and E though....I am forever mixing them up.

Dixie

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[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:13 PM
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I think of it this way -- for remembering "of" and "with" in braille -- The computer braille meaning of those symbols is open paren and close paren.

So think, open paren is "of" and close paren is "with", and you can remember

which comes first by alphabetical order.
You know, I get d and f mixed up too, or at least I used to.  Think of the forward pointing one being f for forward, and also the lower cell version is

the exclamation point.  They are also numbers 4 and 6.  I still have to stop

and think when I'm brailling my credit cards with those numbers.  e and i also can be a pain.
--le

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From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
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Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:09 PM
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I have been a braille reader since I was 11 and read it very well but when I
use a slate and styllus I really have to think about the letters "d" and "f"
and the contractions for the words "of" and "with."  It amazes me wen I have
that problem.

Marianne Denning

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From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:55 PM
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>I am taking Hadley lessons for Braille writing right now.  My next class I
> think is for grade 2.  I remember the contracted letters like ing, and for
> and things like that.  It is the contracted words like cd for could that
> make me a bit nuts!  Some day it will sink into this very thick head of
> mine.
>
>
> I was just thinking of reading a brailed pattern line by line.   I think
> it
> might be possible for me to keep track of what row I am on better using
> Braille?  I could do this  by marking the line.  Maybe by punching an
> earring through at the row I am on, or clipping a safety pin to the page
> or
> something like that.
> .  I will have to write out a pattern for myself sometime and see how it
> works for me.
>
>
> Dixie
>
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>
>
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> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen
> Scrivani
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:21 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
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>
> Dixie:
>
> I'm not a speed  reader by any means nor have I ever been.  I am however,
> an
>
> accurate reader which is more important than speed.  I love listening to
> my
> audio books, but there is for certain things nothing like Braille.  Even
> for
>
> labeling every thing from mail, cd's, yarn & other bead supplies knowing
> grade 2 Braille is a benefit since by contracting you can reduce the
> amount
> of writing space to make notes on things.  Then to I get bills like my
> phone
>
> & water bills in Braille & my bank statements as well.
>
> Eileen
>
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> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:53 PM
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>
>> As a person with fairly recent  sight loss, I use Braille occasionally.
>> I
>> learned grade 1 right after losing my sight, 6 years ago, but grade 2 was
>> a
>> struggle.  I have labeled my spices, some light switches for the outside
>> lights, some bottles in the bathroom, where I don't want my ID mate to be
>> exposed to the moisture, and those kinds of things.  Other than that I
>> count
>> on my ID Mate for most identification of household cleaners, pantry items
>> and that kind of thing.  I have started taking Braille courses again from
>> Hadley.  I say I read at a second grade level.  Painfully slowly, one
>> word
>> at a time, but it is reading.  I have to say when someone said that I was
>> illiterate since I could no longer read for myself, I have to admit I was
>> a
>> bit indignant.
>>
>> I hope to be able to use Braille more efficiently, the idea of labeling
>> my
>> yarn is a definite hope.  Braille numbers on my bead bottles certainly is
>> a
>> valuable use of Braille, but for reading, I count on my Jaws to jabber at
>> me.  I can much more efficiently find information in my computer than
>> rifling through a bunch of Brailed papers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dixie
>>
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>>
>>
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>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Blindhands at aol.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:01 PM
>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille verses talking
>>
>> I prefer to listen to a pattern directions on my computer in a doc  file.
>> That way I can listen word by word, immediately put a note in it or  mark
>> an
>>
>> X where I am if the phone rings or I stop.  I save the doc file as  a
>> separate file from my original one and entitle the file as working on
>> sweater, ,
>> etc.
>>
>> To each their own way.
>>
>> Joyce  Kane
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>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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