[Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw:confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d

Eileen Scrivani etscrivani at verizon.net
Mon Jan 10 03:37:39 UTC 2011 

Audrey:

Sorry if I'm being dense here, but are you telling me that Joyce 
unsubscribed from her own list?

Eileen
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From: "AUDREY WELLNER" <rencraft at snet.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:05 PM
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? 
Fw:confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d

> Eileen,
>   The email below came through just before your problem arose. Perhaps 
> when Yvonne unsubscribed it caused this problem.  Right after this I 
> received a regular removal notice from Joyce that she had left the list. 
> When I went in on the subscribers list to see if she was still there she 
> was gone and your name still remained. I really think this probably had 
> something to do with her removal.
>   I sure hope so because everyone on this list should be entitled to their 
> opinions without fear of reprisal. We all have differing viewpoints and 
> they are posted for all to read and form their own opinions. The 
> information you presented is a valid issue and definitely should be 
> answered by leadership.
>   I hate to get off on a whole line but I'll see if I can keep this short.
>   I brokered quilts from Appalachia at some of the best craft shows here 
> in New England for approximately 8 years. Let me ask the folks on this 
> list. Have you seen a big reduction in the amount of craft shows in your 
> area? The reason - people have gotten very tired of seeing their original 
> ideas ripped off, stolen and re-manufactured overseas and sold at Sam's 
> Club, K-Mart, etc for half the price you struggled to create them. (I 
> thought I posted this info sometime ago)
>    When asked by the poor people (needing money to pay for their medicine 
> that their farm sales didn't cover) in the Appalachian area why I no 
> longer could sell the beautiful, hand quilted quilts they made I had to 
> take them to Sam's Club and show them a lovely "Quilt in A Bag" selling 
> for under $50 (quilt, dust ruffle and 2 pillow shams) that didn't even 
> cover the cost of the cotton (imported back to the USA from India) they 
> used to make it, sold by a corporation that swore up and down that 
> everything they sold was made in the USA.
>    I had to watch a fellow crafter in a booth next to me (who sold an 
> original idea of a mallard duck tie rack) do everything he could to stand 
> in the way to block the camera shots being blatantly taken by an Oriental 
> man only to show up in all the K-Mart stores the very next Christmas 
> season for under $19.99.
>   I also stood in front of buyers from Macy's photographing all my clients 
> quilts in a very pricey show on the Hudson River, never to even offer to 
> pay for not one of them, but to ask if I'd wholesale them for under $50 
> for a queen sized quilts.
>   After that I became one of the people instrumental in blocking the 
> Smithsonian Institute from releasing all the original American quilt 
> designs to be copied overseas and demanded that any imported quilt had to 
> be labeled from the country of origin, so Sam's Club could pass them off 
> as being American made and undercut our needy Appalachian workers.
>   I'm sorry if this might offend some people, but this is what this 
> copyright infringement issue is all about. The average person can't buy 
> wholesale and can't compete price wise, therefore all your hard work, 
> dreams and ideas never are given fair competition. On top of that you have 
> people who take the ideas as their own and swear they are the originators.
>   It's a tough market out there--I know--I had to stop. Not much to my 
> liking or my financial well-being. The unfortunate things is - it's not 
> getting any better. Your all must clearly understand what is at stake.
>    Sorry for being long winded.
>    Audrey Wellner, Secretary
>    Krafters Korner division
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> From:
>
> "Yvonne Alaniz" <yalaniz1 at gmail.com>Add sender to Contacts
>
>
>
> To:
> "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>     Obviously this discussion isn't being resolved at all.  I wanted to 
> stay to make friends and enjoy crafting but this group is more concerned 
> about their copyrights than anything else.  I understand that a person 
> wants to protect their materials but it is a volunteer position.  If 
> things aren't being resolved then quit teaching.  I don't have anything 
> else to say on the matter and will be leaving as soon as I finish this 
> message
>
> Yvonne
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 1/9/11, Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw: 
> confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 6:42 PM
>
>
> Thanks Laura.  Yes, curious it is.  I do worry when a mailing like this is
> recieved and I've never in three years got one from this list.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Eileen
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:04 PM
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw:
> confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
>
>> Eileen -- don't get paranoid over this message -- it is actually a glitch
>> in
>> the software on nfbnet.org that processes the mailing lists.  I have
>> gotten
>> the same message on several of the lists I am on, all on nfbnet.  It is
>> something that just happens at random and has affected a lot of people.
>> Dave Andrews says it has something to do with the mail scanner finding a
>> line in the text of the message that it interprets as a request to
>> unsubscribe.
>>
>> Anyway, it is indeed curious that it happened in the middle of this 
>> heated
>> exchange, but it is really a known problem on nfbnet.
>> --le
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> To: <Nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 1:15 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw: confirm
>> 5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
>>
>>
>> Much to my shock, I just got the below notice in my inbox, notifying me
>> that
>> I have been removed from the Krafters Korner Mailing list.  I never
>> requested removal from the mailing list.  How did this happen?  Was it
>> intentional by the NFB or was it accidental?
>>
>> Eileen
>>
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>>
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