[Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw:confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d

AUDREY WELLNER rencraft at snet.net
Mon Jan 10 05:02:04 UTC 2011 

Eileen, 
   Nope, she (Joyce) just sent me a notice as a board member that someone (Yvonne) unsubscribed from the list.
   Audrey Wellner, Secretary
   Krafters Korner division

--- On Sun, 1/9/11, Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net> wrote:


From: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw:confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 10:37 PM


Audrey:

Sorry if I'm being dense here, but are you telling me that Joyce unsubscribed from her own list?

Eileen
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From: "AUDREY WELLNER" <rencraft at snet.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:05 PM
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw:confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d

> Eileen,
>   The email below came through just before your problem arose. Perhaps when Yvonne unsubscribed it caused this problem.  Right after this I received a regular removal notice from Joyce that she had left the list. When I went in on the subscribers list to see if she was still there she was gone and your name still remained. I really think this probably had something to do with her removal.
>   I sure hope so because everyone on this list should be entitled to their opinions without fear of reprisal. We all have differing viewpoints and they are posted for all to read and form their own opinions. The information you presented is a valid issue and definitely should be answered by leadership.
>   I hate to get off on a whole line but I'll see if I can keep this short.
>   I brokered quilts from Appalachia at some of the best craft shows here in New England for approximately 8 years. Let me ask the folks on this list. Have you seen a big reduction in the amount of craft shows in your area? The reason - people have gotten very tired of seeing their original ideas ripped off, stolen and re-manufactured overseas and sold at Sam's Club, K-Mart, etc for half the price you struggled to create them. (I thought I posted this info sometime ago)
>    When asked by the poor people (needing money to pay for their medicine that their farm sales didn't cover) in the Appalachian area why I no longer could sell the beautiful, hand quilted quilts they made I had to take them to Sam's Club and show them a lovely "Quilt in A Bag" selling for under $50 (quilt, dust ruffle and 2 pillow shams) that didn't even cover the cost of the cotton (imported back to the USA from India) they used to make it, sold by a corporation that swore up and down that everything they sold was made in the USA.
>    I had to watch a fellow crafter in a booth next to me (who sold an original idea of a mallard duck tie rack) do everything he could to stand in the way to block the camera shots being blatantly taken by an Oriental man only to show up in all the K-Mart stores the very next Christmas season for under $19.99.
>   I also stood in front of buyers from Macy's photographing all my clients quilts in a very pricey show on the Hudson River, never to even offer to pay for not one of them, but to ask if I'd wholesale them for under $50 for a queen sized quilts.
>   After that I became one of the people instrumental in blocking the Smithsonian Institute from releasing all the original American quilt designs to be copied overseas and demanded that any imported quilt had to be labeled from the country of origin, so Sam's Club could pass them off as being American made and undercut our needy Appalachian workers.
>   I'm sorry if this might offend some people, but this is what this copyright infringement issue is all about. The average person can't buy wholesale and can't compete price wise, therefore all your hard work, dreams and ideas never are given fair competition. On top of that you have people who take the ideas as their own and swear they are the originators.
>   It's a tough market out there--I know--I had to stop. Not much to my liking or my financial well-being. The unfortunate things is - it's not getting any better. Your all must clearly understand what is at stake.
>    Sorry for being long winded.
>    Audrey Wellner, Secretary
>    Krafters Korner division
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> From:
> 
> "Yvonne Alaniz" <yalaniz1 at gmail.com>Add sender to Contacts
> 
> 
> 
> To:
> "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
>     Obviously this discussion isn't being resolved at all.  I wanted to stay to make friends and enjoy crafting but this group is more concerned about their copyrights than anything else.  I understand that a person wants to protect their materials but it is a volunteer position.  If things aren't being resolved then quit teaching.  I don't have anything else to say on the matter and will be leaving as soon as I finish this message
> 
> Yvonne
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 1/9/11, Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw: confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 6:42 PM
> 
> 
> Thanks Laura.  Yes, curious it is.  I do worry when a mailing like this is
> recieved and I've never in three years got one from this list.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:04 PM
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw:
> confirm5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
> 
>> Eileen -- don't get paranoid over this message -- it is actually a glitch
>> in
>> the software on nfbnet.org that processes the mailing lists.  I have
>> gotten
>> the same message on several of the lists I am on, all on nfbnet.  It is
>> something that just happens at random and has affected a lot of people.
>> Dave Andrews says it has something to do with the mail scanner finding a
>> line in the text of the message that it interprets as a request to
>> unsubscribe.
>> 
>> Anyway, it is indeed curious that it happened in the middle of this heated
>> exchange, but it is really a known problem on nfbnet.
>> --le
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> To: <Nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 1:15 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] removal from NFB KK Division? Fw: confirm
>> 5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
>> 
>> 
>> Much to my shock, I just got the below notice in my inbox, notifying me
>> that
>> I have been removed from the Krafters Korner Mailing list.  I never
>> requested removal from the mailing list.  How did this happen?  Was it
>> intentional by the NFB or was it accidental?
>> 
>> Eileen
>> 
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>> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 1:42 PM
>> To: <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: confirm 5dc48820f8a27289d9521defdc505fe8514c1b9d
>> 
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