[Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New Concept!

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Mon Jan 10 13:00:11 UTC 2011 

We are using SKYPE now to get folks into our classes.  Laurie and  Theresa 
are the experts on this.
 
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com   

 
In a message dated 1/9/2011 2:57:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
lauraeaves at yahoo.com writes:

Hi --  skype has a limit of 5 persons in a conference at any one time. It 
may 
be  possible to "daisy chain" and bridge 2 5-person conferences together, 
but  
last I heard that was not supported.
However, skype could be used for  "kraft support", if a person wanted to 
answer questions to 1 or 2 people  calling in at a specified time.
Just thought I'd mention  it.
--le


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura White"  <lewhite86 at gmail.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists"  <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:48  AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New  Concept!


Honestly, in my humble opinion I have been wondering why  we haven't
had classes via skipe for some time now.
Also this brings up  the thoughts at least in my head of a discussion
board and not just an  email list.
I feel like these issues are growing pains of any group and we  will
get them resolved.   One thing I hope to see in future   is a message
board if we can manage it.  That way each individual  thread of talk
doesn't need to always come to our  emails.

Laura

On 1/9/11, Eileen Scrivani  <etscrivani at verizon.net> wrote:
> Greg:
>
> Let me be  perfectly clear, on the fact that I have never asked for nor
> expected  any type of monitary benefit from this group for my time given 
to
> the  membership in teaching them knitting skills.  I have done it from  my
> heart because, yes I have truely enjoyed working with all   those in my
> classes.  I am not nor was I looking for "pay back.  or my voluntary 
> teaching
> time"  That is not even an  issue for me.  Another thing I find 
disturbing 
> in
> all of  this is that there has been emails on the list from the president 
>  as
> well as in a phone conversation I had with her on Friday afternoon,  in 
> which
> she made it very clear to me that she was the person  during the board
> meeting of Wednesday night, Jan 5, that she brought  up the idea of and
> promoted for some kind of monitary reward to be  given to instructors.  We
> now know from Audrey's email to the  list that it was in fact Audrey who
> brought that to the floor and not  the president.  Further in the end it 
> was
> never passed  as something that was resolved.  In my cconversation I was 
>  not
> lead to believe it was going to not happen.  It very much  sounded to me 
> that
> it was a done deal.  Again, I'm not  looking for payment, my time is
> voluntary, but I do expect the truth  from people and not to be misled in 
a
>  conversation.
>
>
> Second, while it is my pleasure to  volunteer to teach, it is not my 
> consent
> nor desire to have  class materials that I have developed and created &
> written gifted  to the NFB nor the NFB Krafters Korner for their financial
>  benefit.  Again this important and concerning question goes  unanswered. 
 I
> must ask myself why?  The only answer I can  come up with is that while I 
> sit
> and wait patiently for this  divisions board to get back to me with what
> should be an easy &  reasonable answer is that it is taking this amount of
> time because  behind the scenes they have elevated it to the National 
>  level,
> getting legal input on where they stand in attempting to claim  my 
> materials
> for their own.   Can I a small not  independantly wealthy person be 
> expected
> to retain a law team  to fight them in this case?  What kind of 
> organization
>  is the NFB that they would do this?  So unfair, so unethical it is  
beyond
> beleif.
>
> Eileen
>
>  --------------------------------------------------
> From: "NCBootman"  <ncbootman at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 8:15  AM
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"  
<nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner]  A Whole New Concept!
>
>> I have a new idea! Krafter’s Corner  is a great group and I am not
>> suggesting we change ANYTHING! But,  maybe we have become to focused on 
>> our
>>
>>  wonderful and valuable phone service for classes. There is a need  and
>> always will be a need for this kind of enteraction. But, quite  frankly, 
>> it
>>
>> does not meet the needs of  everyone. A person has to have long distance
>> access in an  affordable way or skype. You have to show up at the
>> designated  time even if that’s in the middle of the night where you are.
>> You  have to work at the pace of all the other students. And, there are
>>  many more comments I have read here!
>>
>> Why are we not  using this e-mail list for more than a way to socialize 
in
>> many  cases? Why isn’t a classroom a part of it? What I’d like to  
propose
>> is that we all Me included start labeling the message very  carefully and
>> start doing more how-to stuff right here! If I’m not  interested in a
>> topic, I simply can skip those posts. An example  of this is that it has
>> been suggested I start some crochet  instruction. If I take the time to
>> write a coherent lesson plan  and explanation which I would need for a
>> phone class, I can post  that here. Then, if you want to do it, you can
>> give it a try,  e-mail a question for all to see and learn from, I 
>>  respond,
>>
>> and on and on till we all learn. Somebody can  read that anytime. If
>> somebody comes along a year from now and  wants to read that material, 
>> they
>>
>> can  search for a specific Subject and read all about it. I learn to 
>>  teach.
>>
>> I learn to write a Good lesson plan. I give of  myself and not just take
>> from the group. I freely give that  instruction because I want to and not
>> as a job. It’s my fun time  and not a professional time that I owe 
>>  anybody.
>>
>> These are a few of the  benefits.
>>
>> These are some of my thoughts. Are others  interested in doing something
>> like this in addition to all that we  already do? Is there a reason that 
>> it
>>
>>  won’t work?
>>
>> Greg
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