[Nfb-krafters-korner] to everyone

Sat Jan 15 00:44:25 UTC 2011

Eileen,

I feel that I have made it clear on this list the position of the NFB  
Krafters Division.  I have written to the list what we need to do and  stated 
our policy several times.

I suggest you go back and read my emails that I have written in the last 8  
hours.

I will need to move on from here.  I will let folks know when we have  
things reviewed  legally and when we can put it up on the class proposals  and 
class sign up.

I am trying to move forward and it is up to the teachers and the students  
if they want to wait until this is up on the website or go forward with 
taking  the classes now. and proposing classes.

You have no scheduled classes at this time so it is not a concern   that 
effects you.

I will notify each of the teachers presently running a class to see if they 
 want to cancel their remaining classes until things are in place.  At that 
 time It will have to classes will have to be have to be submitted on the 
class  proposal list and students will have to sign up for classes once again.

My sock class and Laurie's beading class will not be canceled.

  You have taken things out of the meeting and did not put it down in  
complete contents.  

I also believe everyone

Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com   

In a message dated 1/14/2011 3:38:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
etscrivani at verizon.net writes:

I never  said it had to be instantanious and I understand it takes time. 
What I  want clarification on is if we agree or don't agree that as it 
stands,  cannot continue, and needs to be more formal in the agreement .  
We  
need legal help on how to best put in place a system that protects,  
instructors, students & the division.  It is a question as to if  we agree 
or  
not.

Eileen
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From:  <Blindhands at aol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:04 PM
To:  <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]  to everyone

> As I said last night that these things can not be done  in an   instant.
> That we will and can not just throw up  something on the  website.  I did 
> make
> that clear  that we have to
> get legal advise as that has been advised by the group  there last  night.
>
>
>
> Joyce   Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>  Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated 1/14/2011  1:35:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> etscrivani at verizon.net  writes:
>
> Need  some further clarification here  ...
>
> It was agreed that what we  currently do is way to  casual.  To protect
> those
> concerned, it is  best to  have something in writing (electronic
> acknowledgement works for   me).  As Donna hill had mentioned what is done
> in
> the  performing  artists division all is put into a contract.  that keeps 

> it
> working  for all concerned.  We agreed that it  would be set in place some
> kind  of agreement system on the web  site. It was not left that things 
> will
> just  continue as  "business as usual."
>
> If you are negating these items  than  that does not work for me.  Please
> clarify   further.
>
> Eileen
>
>  --------------------------------------------------
> From:   <Blindhands at aol.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 2:43  PM
> To:  <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject:  [Nfb-krafters-korner] to  everyone
>
>> As our policy has  been in the past:
>>
>>  Recordings of classes will be  available to the teacher and the 
>> students
>> that are  present in the class.  NFB Krafters Division  nor  the  
teachers
>> will
>> or can sell the recordings.    The recordings will  be posted to send 
>> space
>>  for
>> download  for a limited time only.   The NFB  Krafters Division does  not
>> have
>> control of how  long the link  on send space will  be up there.  So it  
is
>> suggested that you go to  send space  when you  receive the email link 
and
>> download  your    class.  NFB Krafters Division will not be responsible 
>>  for
>>  archiving
>> or  keeping these  recordings.
>>
>> These  other things concerning  putting statements on the web, class
>> proposals  and sign up  for classes as Eileen has put in an email NFB
>>   Krafters
>> Division will need to  have legal advise and until  that  is done  we  
can
>> not move
>>  forward.
>>
>>  I have been asked and I will clearify  the statement I made above.
>>  "Recordings of classes will be  available to the teacher and the
> students
>> that are present  in the class.  "
>> to  clarify:
>>
>>  Teachers and students only that have attended a class  will be  notified
>> about download.
>>
>> "NFB  Krafters  Division nor the teachers will
>> or can sell  the  recordings.   "
>> The recording of the classes  can not or will not be sold by  NFB 
>> Krafters
>>  Division or the teacher.
>> Joyce Kane,  President
>>  National Federation of the Blind Krafters Division
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