[Nfb-krafters-korner] Kitchner Stitch and other Techniques
Blindhands at aol.com
Blindhands at aol.com
Fri Jan 21 21:29:23 UTC 2011
Susan,
Not sure why you may be using double pointed needles, but understand the
tiny needle and many stitches. Instead of dpn how about 2 circular
needles. At least that way you have less points of needles to worry about and the
circs can be long enough to hold the work on and you can use rubber bands
on the points for double security
Joyce Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
Blindhands at AOL.com
In a message dated 1/20/2011 10:20:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net writes:
Oh yes Ninn, that makes way more since to me now. I have not done the
kitchner bind off yet, but as my sister and I were going through a
knitting
book I checked out of our local library for cape patterns, we ran across a
fairly good description of the kitchner stitch. I have always been
curious
about the kitchner stitch because it is used frequently in socks.
I am currently working on a Liberty Cap for my husband and I am learning
two
techniques I have never used before, a provisional cast on and fusing a
folded brim. I am modifying the pattern slightly because it calls for a
size 0 circular and double pointed needles and I'm useing a 1 instead and
I
am also using worsted yarn instead of a sports weight. I have already had
to change 130 cast on to only 104 stitches and have changed the brim width
from 32 rows to 20 rows. So far, so good, but when I get ready to fuse
the
brim, I'm definitely going to run a trapeze line. Then whenif I'm
successful with the brim, I'm going to run that line again. I will have
to
knit from bottom of brim edge 8-1/2 inches before I start the gradule
decreaseing, but I'm going to run trapeze lines every couple of inches.
As
tight as the circular stockenet is, I do not want to even try and rangle
dropped stitches and I'm going to take whatever precautions I can as I go.
I am not looking forward to putting the cap on the double pointed needles,
but I am going to do this and just take my time and just watch my stitch
tention as I go.
Susan
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
<nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
> Susan,
>
> You are correct. The kitchner stitch is like the 3-needle bind-off,
> except
> you do not knit the stitches off. The way we did the cloth, we left the
> final row on the needle and went back and picked up the cast on row on
> another needle. So, holding the two needles together with the live
> stitches, what Donna had us do was put the first stitch from the back
> needle
> onto the front needle and then knit two together. Once you have
completed
> the first two stitches (they are on your right needle) you lift the first
> stitch over the second stitch and drop it off just like in a normal
> bind-off. Continue until you have all the stitches bound off.
>
> My problem, was that the cast on stitches were very tight. It was hard
to
> get another needle in there to knit the two stitches together. However,
> the
> kitchner worked much easier as I only had to work with a large eyed blunt
> needle. Have you done kitchner before?
>
> The other thing I liked about the kitchner over the 3-needle method is
> that
> the kitchner lays flat - it is grafted. The 3-needle leaves a ridge
just
> like you had put the fabric together and sewed it on a machine or slipp
> stitched a seam one knit stitch in from the edge.
>
> Either way, the cloth is a beautiful pattern. I plan to do more of
them.
> I am still going to be working on my 3-needle bind-off because it is and
> important technique in the knitting of garments. There are video
> tutorials
> on You-Tube that might help you.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Blessings,
> Ninn
> the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Roe
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>
> Hi Ninn,
>
> I haven't done the cloth yet, but how can you do the kitchner stitch if
> you
> don't have open loops on both sides of the seem you are closing? I
> thought
> you used the needle and thread and pulled stitches off in a particular
> order
>
> from both sides as when you are closing a heel or toe of a sock. I have
> never done a three needle bind off. Are there instructions somewhere
> on-line?
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>
>
>> I'm right there with you, Teresa,
>>
>> Kitchner stitch, also called grafting stitch, is a method of sewing
seams
>> together from live stitches - like we did with the 3-needle bind-off.
>> The
>> difference is that instead of using a knitting needle, you use a large
>> eyed
>> blunt needle an pick up and remove the live stitches in a particular
>> sequence and the end result is invisible. In theory, any way (smile)!
>>
>> I had tried doing the kitchner when I was practicing my double circ and
>> magic loop techniques. I did not do too well then, however I have
looked
>> up
>> tutorials on it and last night I did it and it is almost invisible. I
>> gave
>> the two cloths to my daughter and asked her which one she liked best.
>> She
>> picked the kitchner. The seam is flat and the stitches appear to be
knit
>> or
>> woven together.
>>
>> If you want, contact me off list and I'll walk you through it. I think
>> you
>> will like it. Always good to have a variety of tricks in your bag -
>> something for every occasion!
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Ninn
>> the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Theresa
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:10 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>
>> What is the kitchner stich? This newbie to knitting is still tackling
the
>> 3
>> needle bind off. I love having the skill and will keep working at
>> it.....but
>>
>> curious at other ways to sew together other then sewing....big smile!
>> Theresa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>
>>
>>> Thank you Donna for a most enjoyable project. I must confess, however,
>>> that
>>> I really had a time of it with the 3-needle bind-off! I felt like a
>>> real
>>> klutz trying to manage the 3 needles - yikes! I eventually took all
off
>>> the
>>> needles, reknit the last two rows and started again. I finally got it!
>>> I
>>> set it aside and was thinking about just sewing my second cloth
(taking
>>> the
>>> easy way out - smile) - when I thought of the kitchner stitch. I
>>> decided
>>> to
>>> give it a try. I think I like it better as the seam is not as
>>> pronounced.
>>> Both cloths turned out beautiful, though, and I have not given up on
the
>>> 3-needle bind-off. I'll keep practicing until I feel I have mastered
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for the class and for broadening my horizons!
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>> Ninn
>>> the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Theresa
>>> Taylor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:16 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>>
>>> Donna,
>>> You have an awesome gift of teaching and I appreciate you sharing it!
>>> Theresa
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: <dewhill at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:58 PM
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>> Donna,
>>>>
>>>> I would really like to thank you for the great class you shared with
us
>>>> on
>>>> NFB Krafters Division[Krafters Korner]. Everyone was delighted with
>>>> learning this technique. You did a great job.
>>>>
>>>> We will all look forward to you being on the list and possibly
teaching
>>>> us
>>>> some other unique knitting projects.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you once again,
>>>>
>>>> Joyce Kane
>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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