[Nfb-krafters-korner] Kitchner Stitch and other Techniques

Susan Roe dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
Sat Jan 22 11:41:57 UTC 2011 

Joyce,

The reason I'll be using double pointed needles towards the end is that the 
decreasing of the cap will be like a cone, only not going all the way to a 
point.  I don't know how to do the double circular needles, but I have a 
second number 1, 14 inch circular needle because I'll need it when I unravel 
the proventional cast on and fuse the brim together.  Right now I only have 
3 more rows to go before I put a trapeze line in and then deal with the 
proventional cast on.

Once the cap is 8-1/2 inches long, then I'll start the decreaseing, but it 
does not decrease like a regular stocking cap.  For every decrease round, 
you knit 10 rounds and do this for about 4 repeats, then for every decrease 
round, you knit 5 rounds for at least 6 or mor times.

Susan
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kitchner Stitch and other Techniques


> Susan,
>
> Not sure why you may be using double pointed needles, but understand the
> tiny needle and many stitches.  Instead of dpn  how about 2 circular
> needles.  At least that way you have less points of needles to worry about 
> and the
> circs can be long enough to hold the work on and you can use rubber  bands
> on the points for double security
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated 1/20/2011 10:20:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net writes:
>
> Oh yes  Ninn, that makes way more since to me now.  I have not done the
> kitchner bind off yet, but as my sister and I were going through a
> knitting
> book I checked out of our local library for cape patterns, we ran  across 
> a
> fairly good description of the kitchner stitch.  I have  always been
> curious
> about the kitchner stitch because it is used  frequently in socks.
>
> I am currently working on a Liberty Cap for my  husband and I am learning
> two
> techniques I have never used before, a  provisional cast on and fusing a
> folded brim.  I am modifying the  pattern slightly because it calls for a
> size 0 circular and double pointed  needles and I'm useing a 1 instead and
> I
> am also using worsted yarn  instead of a sports weight.  I have already 
> had
> to change 130 cast on  to only 104 stitches and have changed the brim 
> width
> from 32 rows to 20  rows.  So far, so good, but when I get ready to fuse
> the
> brim, I'm  definitely going to run a trapeze line.  Then whenif I'm
> successful  with the brim, I'm going to run that line again.  I will have
> to
> knit  from bottom of brim edge 8-1/2 inches before I start the gradule
> decreaseing, but I'm going to run trapeze lines every couple of  inches.
> As
> tight as the circular stockenet is, I do not want to even  try and rangle
> dropped stitches and I'm going to take whatever precautions  I can as I 
> go.
> I am not looking forward to putting the cap on the double  pointed 
> needles,
> but I am going to do this and just take my time and just  watch my stitch
> tention as I  go.
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
> To: "'List for blind crafters  and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday,  January 20, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks,  Donna
>
>
>> Susan,
>>
>> You are correct.  The  kitchner stitch is like the 3-needle bind-off,
>> except
>> you do  not knit the stitches off.  The way we did the cloth, we left the
>>  final row on the needle and went back and picked up the cast on row on
>>  another needle.  So, holding the two needles together with the  live
>> stitches, what Donna had us do was put the first stitch from the  back
>> needle
>> onto the front needle and then knit two  together.  Once you have
> completed
>> the first two stitches (they  are on your right needle) you lift the 
>> first
>> stitch over the second  stitch and drop it off just like in a normal
>> bind-off.   Continue until you have all the stitches bound  off.
>>
>> My problem, was that the cast on stitches were very  tight.  It was hard
> to
>> get another needle in there to knit the  two stitches together.  However,
>> the
>> kitchner worked  much easier as I only had to work with a large eyed 
>> blunt
>>  needle.  Have you done kitchner before?
>>
>> The other thing I  liked about the kitchner over the 3-needle method is
>> that
>> the  kitchner lays flat - it is grafted.  The 3-needle leaves a ridge
> just
>> like you had put the fabric together and sewed it on a machine or  slipp
>> stitched a seam one knit stitch in from the  edge.
>>
>> Either way, the  cloth is a beautiful  pattern.  I plan to do more of
> them.
>> I am still going to be  working on my 3-needle bind-off because it is and
>> important technique  in the knitting of garments.  There are video
>> tutorials
>>  on You-Tube that might help you.
>>
>> I hope this  helps.
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Ninn
>>  the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>  [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Roe
>>  Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:11 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters  and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks,  Donna
>>
>> Hi Ninn,
>>
>> I haven't done the cloth yet,  but how can you do the kitchner stitch if
>> you
>> don't have open  loops on both sides of the seem you are closing?  I
>>  thought
>> you used the needle and thread and pulled stitches off in a  particular
>> order
>>
>> from both sides as when you are  closing a heel or toe of a sock.  I have
>> never done a three  needle bind off.  Are there instructions somewhere
>>  on-line?
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> -----  Original Message ----- 
>> From: "linda"  <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday,  January 20, 2011 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many  thanks, Donna
>>
>>
>>> I'm right there with you,  Teresa,
>>>
>>> Kitchner stitch, also called grafting stitch,  is a method of sewing
> seams
>>> together from live stitches - like we  did with the 3-needle bind-off.
>>> The
>>> difference is  that instead of using a knitting needle, you use a large
>>>  eyed
>>> blunt needle an pick up and remove the live stitches in a  particular
>>> sequence and the end result is invisible.  In  theory, any way (smile)!
>>>
>>> I had tried doing the  kitchner when I was practicing my double circ and
>>> magic loop  techniques.  I did not do too well then, however I have
> looked
>>> up
>>> tutorials on it and last night I did it and  it is almost invisible.   I
>>> gave
>>> the two  cloths to my daughter and asked her which one she liked best.
>>>  She
>>> picked the kitchner.  The seam is flat and the stitches  appear to be
> knit
>>> or
>>> woven  together.
>>>
>>> If you want, contact me off list and I'll  walk you through it.  I think
>>> you
>>> will like  it.  Always good to have a variety of tricks in your bag -
>>>  something for every occasion!
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>>  Ninn
>>> the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>>>
>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>> From:  nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>  [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of  Theresa
>>> Taylor
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:10  AM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject:  Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>>
>>> What is  the kitchner stich? This newbie to knitting is still tackling
> the
>>>  3
>>> needle bind off. I love having the skill and will keep working  at
>>> it.....but
>>>
>>> curious at other ways to sew  together other then sewing....big smile!
>>>  Theresa
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
>>> To: "'List for blind  crafters and artists'"
>>>  <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January  19, 2011 11:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks,  Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you Donna for a most  enjoyable project.  I must confess, 
>>>> however,
>>>>  that
>>>> I really had a time of it with the 3-needle  bind-off!  I felt like a
>>>> real
>>>> klutz  trying to manage the 3 needles - yikes!  I eventually took all
> off
>>>> the
>>>> needles, reknit the last two rows and  started again.  I finally got 
>>>> it!
>>>> I
>>>> set  it aside and was thinking about just sewing my second cloth
> (taking
>>>> the
>>>> easy way out - smile) - when I  thought of the kitchner stitch.  I
>>>>  decided
>>>> to
>>>> give it a try.  I think I like  it better as the seam is not as
>>>> pronounced.
>>>>  Both cloths turned out beautiful, though, and I have not given up on
> the
>>>> 3-needle bind-off.  I'll keep practicing until I feel  I have mastered
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Again,  thanks for the class and for broadening my  horizons!
>>>>
>>>> Blessings,
>>>>  Ninn
>>>>  the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:  nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>  [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of  Theresa
>>>> Taylor
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19,  2011 10:16 PM
>>>> To: List for blind crafters and  artists
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks,  Donna
>>>>
>>>> Donna,
>>>> You have an  awesome gift of teaching and I appreciate you sharing it!
>>>>  Theresa
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>>> To:  <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc:  <dewhill at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011  9:58 PM
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks,  Donna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Donna,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would really like to thank  you for the great class you shared with
> us
>>>>>  on
>>>>> NFB Krafters Division[Krafters Korner].  Everyone  was delighted with
>>>>> learning this technique.  You did  a great job.
>>>>>
>>>>> We will all look forward  to you being on the list and possibly
> teaching
>>>>>  us
>>>>> some other unique knitting  projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you once  again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joyce   Kane
>>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>>>  Blindhands at AOL.com
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