[Nfb-krafters-korner] Kitchner Stitch and other Techniques
linda
the_ninn at tx.rr.com
Fri Jan 21 21:46:42 UTC 2011
Susan,
>From the first time I tried the kitchner it hooked me! There is a sort of
rhythm to it that I like - weird, I know, but, there you have it! I like
that it gives you a woven look that completely hides the seam. I have a
lacy wrist warmer pattern that has a scalloped edge. I want to make a scarf
to match, but with the scalloped edge, it will come out reversed at the
other end. So, I figured I could knit two halves of the scarf and then use
the kitchner to join them. Wish me luck.
What is a Liberty Cap? Sounds like it calls for pretty thin yarn. I shy
away from anything smaller than a light weight 4. Have you come up with a
way to change size on a pattern when you change the yarn size or body size?
I hear there is a website called "knitter's math" or something like that. I
plan to check that out when I get a minute (smile).
I am looking at learning to do the provisional cast on - but have not tried
it yet. What is ."fusing a brim?"
And what is a trapeze
Line? Is that like a "life-line?" I whish I had heard of a life-line a
long time ago. I missed Eileen's class, but threaded a line through some
work I was doing and that worked. I hope to get in a class and learn the
correct way to insert one.
You are lucky you have a sister close by that can help you with your
knitting. I am assuming, of course, that she is sighted . My sister is a
knitter, also, but she lives in Atlanta. We Skipe each other and knit
together that way. I love it. We canshow each other what we are working on
and give each other advice.
Blessings,
Ninn
the_ninn at tx.rr.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Roe
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:18 AM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kitchner Stitch and other Techniques
Oh yes Ninn, that makes way more since to me now. I have not done the
kitchner bind off yet, but as my sister and I were going through a knitting
book I checked out of our local library for cape patterns, we ran across a
fairly good description of the kitchner stitch. I have always been curious
about the kitchner stitch because it is used frequently in socks.
I am currently working on a Liberty Cap for my husband and I am learning two
techniques I have never used before, a provisional cast on and fusing a
folded brim. I am modifying the pattern slightly because it calls for a
size 0 circular and double pointed needles and I'm useing a 1 instead and I
am also using worsted yarn instead of a sports weight. I have already had
to change 130 cast on to only 104 stitches and have changed the brim width
from 32 rows to 20 rows. So far, so good, but when I get ready to fuse the
brim, I'm definitely going to run a trapeze line. Then whenif I'm
successful with the brim, I'm going to run that line again. I will have to
knit from bottom of brim edge 8-1/2 inches before I start the gradule
decreaseing, but I'm going to run trapeze lines every couple of inches. As
tight as the circular stockenet is, I do not want to even try and rangle
dropped stitches and I'm going to take whatever precautions I can as I go.
I am not looking forward to putting the cap on the double pointed needles,
but I am going to do this and just take my time and just watch my stitch
tention as I go.
Susan
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
> Susan,
>
> You are correct. The kitchner stitch is like the 3-needle bind-off,
> except
> you do not knit the stitches off. The way we did the cloth, we left the
> final row on the needle and went back and picked up the cast on row on
> another needle. So, holding the two needles together with the live
> stitches, what Donna had us do was put the first stitch from the back
> needle
> onto the front needle and then knit two together. Once you have completed
> the first two stitches (they are on your right needle) you lift the first
> stitch over the second stitch and drop it off just like in a normal
> bind-off. Continue until you have all the stitches bound off.
>
> My problem, was that the cast on stitches were very tight. It was hard to
> get another needle in there to knit the two stitches together. However,
> the
> kitchner worked much easier as I only had to work with a large eyed blunt
> needle. Have you done kitchner before?
>
> The other thing I liked about the kitchner over the 3-needle method is
> that
> the kitchner lays flat - it is grafted. The 3-needle leaves a ridge just
> like you had put the fabric together and sewed it on a machine or slipp
> stitched a seam one knit stitch in from the edge.
>
> Either way, the cloth is a beautiful pattern. I plan to do more of them.
> I am still going to be working on my 3-needle bind-off because it is and
> important technique in the knitting of garments. There are video
> tutorials
> on You-Tube that might help you.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Blessings,
> Ninn
> the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Susan Roe
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>
> Hi Ninn,
>
> I haven't done the cloth yet, but how can you do the kitchner stitch if
> you
> don't have open loops on both sides of the seem you are closing? I
> thought
> you used the needle and thread and pulled stitches off in a particular
> order
>
> from both sides as when you are closing a heel or toe of a sock. I have
> never done a three needle bind off. Are there instructions somewhere
> on-line?
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>
>
>> I'm right there with you, Teresa,
>>
>> Kitchner stitch, also called grafting stitch, is a method of sewing seams
>> together from live stitches - like we did with the 3-needle bind-off.
>> The
>> difference is that instead of using a knitting needle, you use a large
>> eyed
>> blunt needle an pick up and remove the live stitches in a particular
>> sequence and the end result is invisible. In theory, any way (smile)!
>>
>> I had tried doing the kitchner when I was practicing my double circ and
>> magic loop techniques. I did not do too well then, however I have looked
>> up
>> tutorials on it and last night I did it and it is almost invisible. I
>> gave
>> the two cloths to my daughter and asked her which one she liked best.
>> She
>> picked the kitchner. The seam is flat and the stitches appear to be knit
>> or
>> woven together.
>>
>> If you want, contact me off list and I'll walk you through it. I think
>> you
>> will like it. Always good to have a variety of tricks in your bag -
>> something for every occasion!
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Ninn
>> the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Theresa
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:10 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>
>> What is the kitchner stich? This newbie to knitting is still tackling the
>> 3
>> needle bind off. I love having the skill and will keep working at
>> it.....but
>>
>> curious at other ways to sew together other then sewing....big smile!
>> Theresa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "linda" <the_ninn at tx.rr.com>
>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>
>>
>>> Thank you Donna for a most enjoyable project. I must confess, however,
>>> that
>>> I really had a time of it with the 3-needle bind-off! I felt like a
>>> real
>>> klutz trying to manage the 3 needles - yikes! I eventually took all off
>>> the
>>> needles, reknit the last two rows and started again. I finally got it!
>>> I
>>> set it aside and was thinking about just sewing my second cloth (taking
>>> the
>>> easy way out - smile) - when I thought of the kitchner stitch. I
>>> decided
>>> to
>>> give it a try. I think I like it better as the seam is not as
>>> pronounced.
>>> Both cloths turned out beautiful, though, and I have not given up on the
>>> 3-needle bind-off. I'll keep practicing until I feel I have mastered
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for the class and for broadening my horizons!
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>> Ninn
>>> the_ninn at tx.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Theresa
>>> Taylor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:16 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>>
>>> Donna,
>>> You have an awesome gift of teaching and I appreciate you sharing it!
>>> Theresa
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: <dewhill at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:58 PM
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Many thanks, Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>> Donna,
>>>>
>>>> I would really like to thank you for the great class you shared with us
>>>> on
>>>> NFB Krafters Division[Krafters Korner]. Everyone was delighted with
>>>> learning this technique. You did a great job.
>>>>
>>>> We will all look forward to you being on the list and possibly teaching
>>>> us
>>>> some other unique knitting projects.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you once again,
>>>>
>>>> Joyce Kane
>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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