[Nfb-krafters-korner] Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52, Issue 25
Kendra Schaber
Baltimore777 at comcast.net
Wed Nov 23 22:34:29 UTC 2011
Hi Becky, hay thanks! I am now off the digest but am on the mailing list. My
computer is thanking me very much for it(LOL!)
Kendra Schaber
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From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52,Issue
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> In your message Kendra it said:
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> nfb-krafters-korner-owner at nfbnet.org
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> There is your answer to getting off digest, smile.
>
> Technology drives me crazy, soft smile.
>
> Becky and guide dog Jake
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kendra
> Schaber
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:34 AM
> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52,
> Issue
> 25
>
> Hi Terry, it is about the digest. That particular digest of last Saturday
> was too large for my computer to prosess correctly and my screen reader
> wasn't able to read it. My question is: What was that single volume on the
> mailing digest was all about? I want to make sure that I didn't miss
> anything important. I have tryed to get off of the digest feature of the
> mailing list but have not had luck. Does anyone know how to stay on the
> Crafter's Corner but get off of the digest?
> Kendra Schaber
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>> 1. Re: christmas tree instructions? (Blindhands at aol.com)
>> 2. Monday Night Chat (Blindhands at aol.com)
>> 3. safety pin projects (Jean Parker)
>> 4. Re: Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22 (Kendra Schaber)
>> 5. Re: Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52, Issue 23 (Kendra Schaber)
>> 6. Re: Bolek and tree kits (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>> 7. Re: safety pin projects (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>> 8. Re: Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22
>> (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:34:22 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] christmas tree instructions?
>> Message-ID: <2dcc7.1a3823ad.3bfab03e at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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>> Pipi
>>
>> You need to attend the classes to receive the written directions. That
>> is
>> a Krafters Korner rule. It encourages members to take the time to
>> attend
>> the classes that the teachers have planned out. We have done a safety
>> pin
>> Christmas tree class last year and this year. Since it is such a
>> popular
>> class I am sure we will do it again. Just a note the 2 Christmas Trees
>> were
>> different in size and in beads so they did not look anything alike.
>>
>> Joyce Kane
>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/19/2011 9:39:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Is is possible to get a copy of the written instructions for this
>> christmas
>> tree even though i didn't attend the class?
>> sorry I'm still new to all of this.
>> Pipi
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 9:43 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Tough class tonight
>>
>>
>>> Theresa,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the class tonight on the Xmas tree. The tree is a
>>> tough
>>> one to do. The new folks that have not done any of the safety pin
>>> beading
>>> you need to know the tree is a tough one as you are building it from
>>> top
>>> down. The easier ones build from bottom up.
>>>
>>> Don't give up if you have any questions we will be right here for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> the second row use the written directions as I think things got
>>> confusing
>>> with the discussion in the recording due to keep going back and
>>> repeating
>>> directions.
>>>
>>> Theresa will send out the written directions to all of you in the
>>> class.
>>> Directions are sent out part by part as far as the class covers in
>>> each
>>> night. Have no fear you will receive a set of directions complete
>>> when
>>> the
>>> class ends so you can make more of them.
>>>
>>> I do wonder how this would look done with green beads instead of the
>>> crystal. Bolek sells each size beads in all the same color in a bag or
>> 1
>>> bag of
>>> mixed colors. So you could purchase a bag of the assorted 12 mm
>> fasceted
>>> beads and that would give you the array of colored beads.
>>>
>>> I think next time I order I will have to get the stuff to make this
>>> tree
>>> in
>>> green with the colored beads.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:36:05 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Monday Night Chat
>> Message-ID: <31085.51b6bcc0.3bfabeb5 at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> We do not have a Monday Night Chat planned for November 21. You can
>> call
>> in if you would like to chat. I am not sure if I will be there or not.
>>
>> We do have the Christmas tree class planned on Tuesday at 8 PM.
>>
>> I want to wish you all a warm and happy Thanksgiving with plenty of food
>> and good thoughts.
>>
>> Have a great Turky Day from the Krafters Korner family to your family.
>> Joyce Kane
>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:54:40 -0700
>> From: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] safety pin projects
>> Message-ID: <23AF0B9CA5964676A2750A5F02E2568B at parker2a5f9fdd>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Theresa and All:
>> Are there going to be any more safety pin classes held this year? I am
>> in
>
>> the US for some time and can attend a class on the phone. I have done
>> quite a few things on my own but it would be so much fun to attend a
>> class!
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:07:11 -0800
>> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52,
>> Issue 22
>> Message-ID: <81F9AD8552744F699F5E6B0C431BFE2D at your90477e8f53>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Hi all: What was the issue Vol52 Issue 21 about? My computer couldn't
>> handle
>> it for my screen reader to read it. Also, what is going to be this coming
>> Monday's topic on the phone confrence call? I have not heard anything
>> about
>> it. Thank you!
>> Kendra Schaber
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:00 AM
>> Subject: Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>> 1. Re: Bolek and tree kits (Denise Shaible)
>>> 2. Re: craft patterns in .docx format
>>> (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>> 3. Re: Bolek and tree kits (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>> 4. Re: craft patterns in .docx format (Dixie)
>>> 5. Re: craft patterns in .docx format
>>> (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:44:12 -0800
>>> From: "Denise Shaible" <denise.shaible at att.net>
>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>> Message-ID: <AC33F43C6008457CB4B73009D3E1AC7E at OwnerPC>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Joyce,
>>>
>>> I'm glad you mentioned the colors. I don't know If I ever had that many
>>> different colored ornaments on my tree. I've had lots of colored lights
>>> but
>>> not ornaments. I was thinking the very thing you said. I mean, just
>>> making one or two colors. When I get more practice with safety pin
>>> beading,
>>> maybe I'll try that. I'm sure it would look very nice. It sounds like
>>> one
>>> can get creative even with a kit.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Denise
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:42 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I will say it is best to finish off by twisting wire tight before going
>>> to
>>> next row. It completes the row and gives you more of a circle shape to
>>> followwhen doing the next row. It is easy to pick up the wrong pin from
>>> the
>>> previous row. I do know that for sure as I have made mistakes and
>>> instead
>>> of undoing a entire row, I have cut the wire in 2 consecutive rows to
>>> fix
>>> a mistake. I don't advise you doing that until you have more practice
>>> under your belt.
>>>
>>> Now for the starting on #7 pin. It will still be adding the 24 pins in
>>> a
>>> 2 pins and then previous row tthen 1 pin and previous row. It is
>>> starting
>>> off on that C pin to just stagger the colored pins into a different
>>> pattern
>>> texture. I am saying texture as the pins have the colored bead coming
>>> at
>>> different levels on each pin and I am guessing it does it to shift it
>>> up
>>> and down as you would put ornaments on a tree.
>>>
>>> Now as Theresa did say she is reading the pattern the way Bolek has
>>> written
>>> it. There is no reason why you can't put them on another order. That
>>> way is your original creation. Just as we said in the class, it would
>>> be
>>> good to do it in green and the colored beads. You can purchase all the
>>> things
>>> you got in the kit as lights, star, pins, beads. You just have to
>>> purchase the items in the amounts that they sell the bags and supplies.
>>> So
>>> you
>>> might have to purchase more then you need, but it is always good to have
>>> extra ones on hand.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 4:36:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Just wanted to let you all know that I called Bolek today and they were
>>> happy to send me the beads missing from my kit free of charge or
>>> shipping.
>>> They said they will send them right out, so I will be good to go.
>>>
>>> Today my husband and I worked on row three of the pins. It was puzzling
>>> to
>>> us to find that the directions didn't work out and we ended up having
>>> to
>>> adjust the pattern.
>>>
>>> You see what happened was that we had eight pins in row one, and 16 in
>>> row
>>> two, then 24 in row three. This made sense to us because row two had a
>>> 1
>>> 1
>>> pattern, while row 3 had a 2 and 1 pattern. However, the perplexity
>>> came
>>> when the instructions said to begin at the marker pin, which in our
>>> case
>>> was
>>> seven pins into the row. When we did the pattern in this way, we ran
>>> out
>>> of
>>> pins in row two to connect with, before we ran out of c pins. All we
>>> could
>>> think to do was to start at the beginning of the row, which enabled us
>>> to
>>> follow the pattern correctly. The tree is now looking like a tree, but
>>> maybe the color pattern is not quite right.
>>> Another thing we neglected to do until row 3 was completed was to
>>> connect
>>> the two ends of row two. Could it be that this was the problem?
>>>
>>> Anyway, If anyone out there can figure out what if anything we are not
>>> understanding, i.e. how we can start in seven pins and still end with
>>> all
>>> pins used, please let me know. we will work it over again. I did talk
>>> to
>>> Theresa on the phone about this, but I believe I was unable to explain
>>> our
>>> puzzlement clearly. I often write better than I speak.
>>>
>>> Also, just as a note from a newbee, I believe I would have preferred
>>> not
>>> to
>>> have laid the pins out before starting the row. If I'd done the project
>>> alone, it would have been difficult to keep the pins straight while
>>> fooling
>>> with the wire, that is even if My cat hadn't been up on my dining room
>>> table, very interested in what we were doing. Taking them one by one
>>> from
>>> my
>>> bag would have been easier and "safer" for me I believe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:13 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> How many do you need. I have at least 15, maybe more.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I really liked Terry P's idea of saving extra kits after a project. I
>>> plan
>>> to do this, I have a few large stars and colored beads to start my
>>> collection. Thanks for the tip about putting broken beads in the center
>>> of
>>> the pin. however, my broken ones were unusable, but I substituted large
>>> stars and hope they will fit into the tree. My other option is to short
>>> a
>>> few other E pins, so I can have close to the amount needed.
>>>
>>> Which option is preferable, larger star substitutes or shorting other E
>>> pins?
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carol
>>> Schnip
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:44 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I To had many of the stars that were broken. But since whe did not have
>>> a
>>> lot of the beads I did what I could and put one broken one one close to
>>> where the pin is in the center of the tree. I did have a pack of beads
>>> missing about 15 of the larger star beads and five of the pins. They
>>> are
>>> replaceing the missing beads and pins. But if I am going to make
>>> another
>>> I
>>> think I will gather the beads. That way if I miss any it will be me to
>>> blame. lol Hugs all CarolAnn
>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:43:42 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098AF9 at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To convert
>>> something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me how the
>>> program works or how to find it.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That is
>>> very good to know.
>>>
>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>> if
>>> you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>> could
>>> not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired last
>>> night.
>>> I
>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>> converter and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for free
>>> that is easy to download and install. I was reading my .docx files
>>> within
>>> minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It is
>>> not immediately compatible with previous versions of word for windows
>>> unless one downloads a converter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you know
>>> what
>>> to do!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:55:14 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> Ohio;
>>> I think I know what your problem is!
>>> Your connection, or twist of your wire on row 2 is not in the same place
>>> as it is on row three. From what you are saying, the two connections
>>> are
>>> about 7 pins from each other. That is why we are using the marker pin,
>>> so
>>> we will know where to start the next row, so the ornament patern will
>>> fall
>>> in to place. If you have enough pins on each row and they altrinate,
>>> like
>>> I described in my other e-mail, I think you have it right. There are
>>> extra C pins for future rows.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Theresa Taylor [mailto:tct71887 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:02 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> Ohio,
>>>
>>> lol...that was actually Ken. I don't have enough hearing for the regular
>>> phone.
>>> Terry is correct. You start at that marked C pin and then you will end
>>> with a bead right next to it. It is the same amount of pins from the top
>>> no matter where you start. The only reason we start there is to keep
>>> that
>>> pattern going that Terry so nicely described.
>>> HOpe this helps and feel free to call back.
>>> Theresa
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Ohio Gardener wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to let you all know that I called Bolek today and they
>>>> were happy to send me the beads missing from my kit free of charge or
>>>> shipping.
>>>> They said they will send them right out, so I will be good to go.
>>>>
>>>> Today my husband and I worked on row three of the pins. It was
>>>> puzzling to us to find that the directions didn't work out and we
>>>> ended up having to adjust the pattern.
>>>>
>>>> You see what happened was that we had eight pins in row one, and 16 in
>>>> row two, then 24 in row three. This made sense to us because row two
>>>> had a 1 1 pattern, while row 3 had a 2 and 1 pattern. However, the
>>>> perplexity came when the instructions said to begin at the marker pin,
>>>> which in our case was seven pins into the row. When we did the pattern
>>>> in this way, we ran out of pins in row two to connect with, before we
>>>> ran out of c pins. All we could think to do was to start at the
>>>> beginning of the row, which enabled us to follow the pattern
>>>> correctly. The tree is now looking like a tree, but maybe the color
>>>> pattern is not quite right.
>>>> Another thing we neglected to do until row 3 was completed was to
>>>> connect the two ends of row two. Could it be that this was the
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, If anyone out there can figure out what if anything we are not
>>>> understanding, i.e. how we can start in seven pins and still end with
>>>> all pins used, please let me know. we will work it over again. I did
>>>> talk to Theresa on the phone about this, but I believe I was unable to
>>>> explain our puzzlement clearly. I often write better than I speak.
>>>>
>>>> Also, just as a note from a newbee, I believe I would have preferred
>>>> not to have laid the pins out before starting the row. If I'd done the
>>>> project alone, it would have been difficult to keep the pins straight
>>>> while fooling with the wire, that is even if My cat hadn't been up on
>>>> my dining room table, very interested in what we were doing. Taking
>>>> them one by one from my bag would have been easier and "safer" for me I
>>>> believe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>>> Terry
>>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:13 AM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> How many do you need. I have at least 15, maybe more.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I really liked Terry P's idea of saving extra kits after a project. I
>>>> plan to do this, I have a few large stars and colored beads to start
>>>> my collection. Thanks for the tip about putting broken beads in the
>>>> center of the pin. however, my broken ones were unusable, but I
>>>> substituted large stars and hope they will fit into the tree. My other
>>>> option is to short a few other E pins, so I can have close to the
>>>> amount
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> Which option is preferable, larger star substitutes or shorting other
>>>> E pins?
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carol
>>>> Schnip
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:44 PM
>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I To had many of the stars that were broken. But since whe did not
>>>> have a lot of the beads I did what I could and put one broken one one
>>>> close to where the pin is in the center of the tree. I did have a
>>>> pack of beads missing about 15 of the larger star beads and five of
>>>> the pins. They are replaceing the missing beads and pins. But if I am
>>>> going to make another I think I will gather the beads. That way if I
>>>> miss any it will be me to blame. lol Hugs all CarolAnn
>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:08:25 -0500
>>> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID: <00ae01cca5f3$28d70d40$7a8527c0$@sbcglobal.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> If you need something converted send it to me and I will convert it for
>>> you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dixie
>>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:44 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To convert
>>> something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me how the
>>> program works or how to find it.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That is
>>> very good to know.
>>>
>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>> if
>>> you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>> could
>>> not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired last
>>> night.
>>> I
>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>> converter
>>> and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for free that is
>>> easy
>>> to download and install. I was reading my .docx files within minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It is
>>> not
>>> immediately compatible with previous versions of word for windows
>>> unless
>>> one downloads a converter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you know
>>> what to do!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:23:10 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098B00 at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Thanks Dixie. What is your last name and your phone number if you want,
>>> so I can add you to my address book.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>> Terry.powers at nih.gov
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dixie [mailto:blueherons at sbcglobal.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:08 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> If you need something converted send it to me and I will convert it for
>>> you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dixie
>>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:44 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To convert
>>> something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me how the
>>> program works or how to find it.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That is
>>> very good to know.
>>>
>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>> if
>>> you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>> could
>>> not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired last
>>> night.
>>> I
>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>> converter and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for free
>>> that is easy to download and install. I was reading my .docx files
>>> within
>>> minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It is
>>> not immediately compatible with previous versions of word for windows
>>> unless one downloads a converter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you know
>>> what to do!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:22:57 -0800
>> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52,
>> Issue 23
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>> Hi all: I don't have a Mac but I do have a PC. I am one that believes in
>> updating everything at once since sometimes, bugs come up if not
>> everything
>> is updated at once. I use JAWS 9.0 which works for me. Windows XP is also
>> good although I heard that Windows 7 is very good. I have Word 2007 and I
>> can open Word 2003 documents just fine. If you want to switch to a Mac,
>> look
>> at your options and figure out which is the best deal.
>> Kendra Schaber
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>> 1. Re: craft patterns in .docx format (David Andrews)
>>> 2. Re: craft patterns in .docx format
>>> (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>> 3. computer question (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>> 4. Re: Bolek and tree kits (Ohio Gardener)
>>> 5. Re: Bolek and tree kits (Blindhands at aol.com)
>>> 6. Re: computer question (Blindhands at aol.com)
>>> 7. Re: computer question (Henrietta Brewer)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:23:55 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID: <4EC6BEDB.50808 at visi.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> The converter works through Microsoft Word, and once installed
>>> automatically allows you to open a DOCX file in earlier versions of
>>> word.
>>>
>>> The link to download the converter is:
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 11/18/2011 6:43 AM, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E] wrote:
>>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To
>>>> convert
>>>> something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me how the
>>>> program works or how to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Terry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That
>>>> is
>>>> very good to know.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>>> if
>>>> you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>>
>>>> Joyce Kane
>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>>> could not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired
>>>> last night.
>>>> I
>>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>>> converter and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for
>>>> free
>>>> that is easy to download and install. I was reading my .docx files
>>>> within minutes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It
>>>> is
>>>> not immediately compatible with previous versions of word for windows
>>>> unless one downloads a converter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you
>>>> know
>>>> what
>>>> to do!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:15:34 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: "'dandrews at visi.com'" <dandrews at visi.com>, 'List for blind
>>> crafters and artists' <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098B09 at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Thanks David and others for the help.
>>> I will try it out next week.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Andrews [mailto:dandrews at visi.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:24 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> The converter works through Microsoft Word, and once installed
>>> automatically allows you to open a DOCX file in earlier versions of
>>> word.
>>>
>>> The link to download the converter is:
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 11/18/2011 6:43 AM, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E] wrote:
>>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To
>>>> convert
>>>> something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me how the
>>>> program works or how to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Terry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That
>>>> is
>>>> very good to know.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>>> if
>>>> you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>>
>>>> Joyce Kane
>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>>> could not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired
>>>> last night.
>>>> I
>>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>>> converter and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for
>>>> free
>>>> that is easy to download and install. I was reading my .docx files
>>>> within minutes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It
>>>> is
>>>> not immediately compatible with previous versions of word for windows
>>>> unless one downloads a converter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you
>>>> know what to do!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:29:28 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] computer question
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098B0B at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a Mac?
>>> I am looking for someone that can tell me how it compairs to using Jaws.
>>> A friend of mine, suggested looking into getting a Mac. The speach is
>>> built in. No wories about updating Jaws.
>>> I will be at work until about 5:00.
>>> My home number is 301-916-8549
>>> Any help would be great. My sighted friend has a mac and hopefully we
>>> can
>>> activate the voice on his, to see what it is like.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> Theresa L. Powers (Terry)
>>> Grants Clerk
>>> Tobacco Control Research Branch
>>> NIH/NCI/DCCPS/BRP/TCRB/DEAS
>>> 6130 Executive Blvd, MSC 7337
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>>>
>>> Rockville, MD 20852-7337 (express mail)
>>>
>>> Phone: 301-496-8584
>>> FAX: 301-496-8675
>>> E-mail: terry.powers at nih.gov<mailto:terry.powers at nih.gov>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:16:52 -0500
>>> From: "Ohio Gardener" <flowersandherbs at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>> Message-ID: <4ec6d956.907fe70a.52b5.0f95 at mx.google.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> Hello Terry, Joyce and Theresa,
>>>
>>> I wanted to let all of you know that I have figured out what was wrong!
>>> It
>>> was very simple and demonstrates how just missing a word or two in a
>>> class
>>> can totally create confusion.
>>>
>>> What we missed was this: "after you have finished attaching the pins on
>>> row
>>> one, connect the wires to form a ring. Likewise, when you have finished
>>> row
>>> two, connect the ends of that wire as well to form a ring, before
>>> continuing with row 3."
>>>
>>> Instead we had the entire tree all three rows of it laid out flat! Once
>>> we
>>> connected our wires into a circle on rows one and two, it was easy to
>>> understand how we could start at the marker pin on row three, because
>>> now
>>> we
>>> were going in a circle and would eventually come round to the other end
>>> of
>>> the wire.
>>>
>>> So we have finished redoing the tree and found a few mistakes along the
>>> way,
>>> (one extra bead, and one wrong sized bead) but we have learned a lot in
>>> the
>>> process and are much quicker at working with the beads and wire now.
>>> also,
>>> it is soo much easier to work with the pins in a circle rather then out
>>> flat!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your explanations, we apologize for not catching that
>>> crucial detail of the process.
>>>
>>> Ohio and husband.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:55 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> Ohio;
>>> I think I know what your problem is!
>>> Your connection, or twist of your wire on row 2 is not in the same place
>>> as
>>> it is on row three. From what you are saying, the two connections are
>>> about
>>> 7 pins from each other. That is why we are using the marker pin, so we
>>> will
>>> know where to start the next row, so the ornament patern will fall in to
>>> place. If you have enough pins on each row and they altrinate, like I
>>> described in my other e-mail, I think you have it right. There are
>>> extra
>>> C
>>> pins for future rows.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Theresa Taylor [mailto:tct71887 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:02 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> Ohio,
>>>
>>> lol...that was actually Ken. I don't have enough hearing for the regular
>>> phone.
>>> Terry is correct. You start at that marked C pin and then you will end
>>> with
>>> a bead right next to it. It is the same amount of pins from the top no
>>> matter where you start. The only reason we start there is to keep that
>>> pattern going that Terry so nicely described.
>>> HOpe this helps and feel free to call back.
>>> Theresa
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Ohio Gardener wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to let you all know that I called Bolek today and they
>>>> were happy to send me the beads missing from my kit free of charge or
>>> shipping.
>>>> They said they will send them right out, so I will be good to go.
>>>>
>>>> Today my husband and I worked on row three of the pins. It was
>>>> puzzling to us to find that the directions didn't work out and we
>>>> ended up having to adjust the pattern.
>>>>
>>>> You see what happened was that we had eight pins in row one, and 16 in
>>>> row two, then 24 in row three. This made sense to us because row two
>>>> had a 1 1 pattern, while row 3 had a 2 and 1 pattern. However, the
>>>> perplexity came when the instructions said to begin at the marker pin,
>>>> which in our case was seven pins into the row. When we did the pattern
>>>> in this way, we ran out of pins in row two to connect with, before we
>>>> ran out of c pins. All we could think to do was to start at the
>>>> beginning of the row, which enabled us to follow the pattern
>>>> correctly. The tree is now looking like a tree, but maybe the color
>>> pattern is not quite right.
>>>> Another thing we neglected to do until row 3 was completed was to
>>>> connect the two ends of row two. Could it be that this was the
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, If anyone out there can figure out what if anything we are not
>>>> understanding, i.e. how we can start in seven pins and still end with
>>>> all pins used, please let me know. we will work it over again. I did
>>>> talk to Theresa on the phone about this, but I believe I was unable to
>>>> explain our puzzlement clearly. I often write better than I speak.
>>>>
>>>> Also, just as a note from a newbee, I believe I would have preferred
>>>> not to have laid the pins out before starting the row. If I'd done the
>>>> project alone, it would have been difficult to keep the pins straight
>>>> while fooling with the wire, that is even if My cat hadn't been up on
>>>> my dining room table, very interested in what we were doing. Taking
>>>> them one by one from my bag would have been easier and "safer" for me I
>>> believe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>>> Terry
>>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:13 AM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> How many do you need. I have at least 15, maybe more.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I really liked Terry P's idea of saving extra kits after a project. I
>>>> plan to do this, I have a few large stars and colored beads to start
>>>> my collection. Thanks for the tip about putting broken beads in the
>>>> center of the pin. however, my broken ones were unusable, but I
>>>> substituted large stars and hope they will fit into the tree. My other
>>>> option is to short a few other E pins, so I can have close to the
>>>> amount
>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> Which option is preferable, larger star substitutes or shorting other
>>>> E pins?
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carol
>>>> Schnip
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:44 PM
>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I To had many of the stars that were broken. But since whe did not
>>>> have a lot of the beads I did what I could and put one broken one one
>>>> close to where the pin is in the center of the tree. I did have a
>>>> pack of beads missing about 15 of the larger star beads and five of
>>>> the pins. They are replaceing the missing beads and pins. But if I am
>>>> going to make another I think I will gather the beads. That way if I
>>>> miss any it will be me to blame. lol Hugs all CarolAnn
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:28:25 -0500 (EST)
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>> Message-ID: <5b541.65edd470.3bf85229 at aol.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> Dear Ohio and husband,
>>>
>>> I am very happy to hear it is going well now. I know we use the term
>>> row
>>> and I will say that is true on all the safety pin projects that I have
>>> made
>>> so far, that you work one at a time and the directions usually say:
>>> twist
>>> ends together tight and trim off excess. We do suggest that you don't
>>> trim
>>> it off until you work down a couple of rows and go back and retighten
>>> that
>>> top row. It gives you a chance to touch it and feel it to be sure you
>>> have
>>> not missed working a pin or that any pin is going in the wrong
>>> direction.
>>> If we had sight maybe by looking we could pick those up faster. If you
>>> missed working a pin and you already trimmed that excess wire off, it
>>> can
>>> be
>>> a real chalenge going back and adding the pin and bead. As when you do
>>> that you are using more spacing on the wire and you may not have enough
>>> to
>>> reach the end and twist together. [Then you will have to piece in
>>> another
>>> piece of wire to finish the row. Been there done that.]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/18/2011 5:43:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello Terry, Joyce and Theresa,
>>>
>>> I wanted to let all of you know that I have figured out what was wrong!
>>> It
>>> was very simple and demonstrates how just missing a word or two in a
>>> class
>>> can totally create confusion.
>>>
>>> What we missed was this: "after you have finished attaching the pins on
>>> row
>>> one, connect the wires to form a ring. Likewise, when you have finished
>>> row
>>> two, connect the ends of that wire as well to form a ring, before
>>> continuing with row 3."
>>>
>>> Instead we had the entire tree all three rows of it laid out flat! Once
>>> we
>>> connected our wires into a circle on rows one and two, it was easy to
>>> understand how we could start at the marker pin on row three, because
>>> now
>>> we
>>> were going in a circle and would eventually come round to the other end
>>> of
>>> the wire.
>>>
>>> So we have finished redoing the tree and found a few mistakes along the
>>> way,
>>> (one extra bead, and one wrong sized bead) but we have learned a lot in
>>> the
>>> process and are much quicker at working with the beads and wire now.
>>> also,
>>> it is soo much easier to work with the pins in a circle rather then out
>>> flat!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your explanations, we apologize for not catching that
>>> crucial detail of the process.
>>>
>>> Ohio and husband.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:55 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> Ohio;
>>> I think I know what your problem is!
>>> Your connection, or twist of your wire on row 2 is not in the same
>>> place
>>> as
>>> it is on row three. From what you are saying, the two connections are
>>> about
>>> 7 pins from each other. That is why we are using the marker pin, so we
>>> will
>>> know where to start the next row, so the ornament patern will fall in
>>> to
>>> place. If you have enough pins on each row and they altrinate, like I
>>> described in my other e-mail, I think you have it right. There are
>>> extra
>>> C
>>> pins for future rows.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Theresa Taylor [mailto:tct71887 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:02 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> Ohio,
>>>
>>> lol...that was actually Ken. I don't have enough hearing for the
>>> regular
>>> phone.
>>> Terry is correct. You start at that marked C pin and then you will end
>>> with
>>> a bead right next to it. It is the same amount of pins from the top no
>>> matter where you start. The only reason we start there is to keep that
>>> pattern going that Terry so nicely described.
>>> HOpe this helps and feel free to call back.
>>> Theresa
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Ohio Gardener wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to let you all know that I called Bolek today and they
>>>> were happy to send me the beads missing from my kit free of charge or
>>> shipping.
>>>> They said they will send them right out, so I will be good to go.
>>>>
>>>> Today my husband and I worked on row three of the pins. It was
>>>> puzzling to us to find that the directions didn't work out and we
>>>> ended up having to adjust the pattern.
>>>>
>>>> You see what happened was that we had eight pins in row one, and 16 in
>>>> row two, then 24 in row three. This made sense to us because row two
>>>> had a 1 1 pattern, while row 3 had a 2 and 1 pattern. However, the
>>>> perplexity came when the instructions said to begin at the marker pin,
>>>> which in our case was seven pins into the row. When we did the pattern
>>>> in this way, we ran out of pins in row two to connect with, before we
>>>> ran out of c pins. All we could think to do was to start at the
>>>> beginning of the row, which enabled us to follow the pattern
>>>> correctly. The tree is now looking like a tree, but maybe the color
>>> pattern is not quite right.
>>>> Another thing we neglected to do until row 3 was completed was to
>>>> connect the two ends of row two. Could it be that this was the
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, If anyone out there can figure out what if anything we are not
>>>> understanding, i.e. how we can start in seven pins and still end with
>>>> all pins used, please let me know. we will work it over again. I did
>>>> talk to Theresa on the phone about this, but I believe I was unable to
>>>> explain our puzzlement clearly. I often write better than I speak.
>>>>
>>>> Also, just as a note from a newbee, I believe I would have preferred
>>>> not to have laid the pins out before starting the row. If I'd done the
>>>> project alone, it would have been difficult to keep the pins straight
>>>> while fooling with the wire, that is even if My cat hadn't been up on
>>>> my dining room table, very interested in what we were doing. Taking
>>>> them one by one from my bag would have been easier and "safer" for me
>>>> I
>>> believe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>>> Terry
>>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:13 AM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> How many do you need. I have at least 15, maybe more.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I really liked Terry P's idea of saving extra kits after a project. I
>>>> plan to do this, I have a few large stars and colored beads to start
>>>> my collection. Thanks for the tip about putting broken beads in the
>>>> center of the pin. however, my broken ones were unusable, but I
>>>> substituted large stars and hope they will fit into the tree. My other
>>>> option is to short a few other E pins, so I can have close to the
>>>> amount
>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> Which option is preferable, larger star substitutes or shorting other
>>>> E pins?
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carol
>>>> Schnip
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:44 PM
>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I To had many of the stars that were broken. But since whe did not
>>>> have a lot of the beads I did what I could and put one broken one one
>>>> close to where the pin is in the center of the tree. I did have a
>>>> pack of beads missing about 15 of the larger star beads and five of
>>>> the pins. They are replaceing the missing beads and pins. But if I am
>>>> going to make another I think I will gather the beads. That way if I
>>>> miss any it will be me to blame. lol Hugs all CarolAnn
>>>>
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:50:04 -0500 (EST)
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] computer question
>>> Message-ID: <5c181.204d065d.3bf8573c at aol.com>
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>>>
>>> This is just my opinion. If you have been a JAWS user for a long time
>>> and use it frequently changing to anything will take time to learn. So
>>> that
>>> part is up to how willing you are to learn new things.
>>>
>>> The second part of my opinion is upgrades come for JAWS usually on an
>>> annual basis. So changes for JAWS screenreading program and the
>>> development
>>> of this program is being addressed by Freedom Scientific all the time.
>>>
>>> Apple put the effort into making their computers with voice over which
>>> is
>>> fantastic, but their development teams are improving the whole computer
>>> annually and not just concentrating on the voice over part of the
>>> machine. I
>>> am not sure how often Apple comes out with upgrades that are a software
>>> upgrade or if upgrades are made for newly manufactured Apple computers
>>> only.
>>>
>>> So if the above is the case if you plan to purchase a new computer
>>> every
>>> few years then there are your considerations.
>>>
>>> I wish I could afford to buy one of those new Mac computers I have
>>> played
>>> with them in Best buy. I am willing to put in the time and effort of
>>> learning so I would have the knowledge of using both computers, but I
>>> took
>>> the
>>> cheaper way out the beginning of this year and bought a regular PC.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/18/2011 4:50:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> Terry.Powers at nih.gov writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a Mac?
>>> I am looking for someone that can tell me how it compairs to using
>>> Jaws.
>>> A friend of mine, suggested looking into getting a Mac. The speach is
>>> built in. No wories about updating Jaws.
>>> I will be at work until about 5:00.
>>> My home number is 301-916-8549
>>> Any help would be great. My sighted friend has a mac and hopefully we
>>> can
>>> activate the voice on his, to see what it is like.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> Theresa L. Powers (Terry)
>>> Grants Clerk
>>> Tobacco Control Research Branch
>>> NIH/NCI/DCCPS/BRP/TCRB/DEAS
>>> 6130 Executive Blvd, MSC 7337
>>> EPN 4039B
>>> Bethesda, MD 20892-7337
>>>
>>> Rockville, MD 20852-7337 (express mail)
>>>
>>> Phone: 301-496-8584
>>> FAX: 301-496-8675
>>> E-mail: terry.powers at nih.gov<mailto:terry.powers at nih.gov>
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:07:18 -0500
>>> From: Henrietta Brewer <gary.brewer at comcast.net>
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] computer question
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>>>
>>> Hi Terry and all,
>>> I am a Mac user now. I am not sure how I would do on a windows product
>>> with windoweyes now. lol I did take lessons to learn the Mac. But I love
>>> it. Yes, there are occassional upgrades to Voice over. Usually the Mac
>>> upgrades help "vo" work better.
>>>
>>> I needed to buy the new windoweyes when I got this computer. So the
>>> Apple
>>> was a better deal for me.
>>>
>>> Henrietta
>>> On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Blindhands at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is just my opinion. If you have been a JAWS user for a long time
>>>> and use it frequently changing to anything will take time to learn.
>>>> So
>>>> that
>>>> part is up to how willing you are to learn new things.
>>>>
>>>> The second part of my opinion is upgrades come for JAWS usually on
>>>> an
>>>> annual basis. So changes for JAWS screenreading program and the
>>>> development
>>>> of this program is being addressed by Freedom Scientific all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Apple put the effort into making their computers with voice over which
>>>> is
>>>> fantastic, but their development teams are improving the whole computer
>>>> annually and not just concentrating on the voice over part of the
>>>> machine. I
>>>> am not sure how often Apple comes out with upgrades that are a
>>>> software
>>>> upgrade or if upgrades are made for newly manufactured Apple computers
>>>> only.
>>>>
>>>> So if the above is the case if you plan to purchase a new computer
>>>> every
>>>> few years then there are your considerations.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I could afford to buy one of those new Mac computers I have
>>>> played
>>>> with them in Best buy. I am willing to put in the time and effort of
>>>> learning so I would have the knowledge of using both computers, but I
>>>> took the
>>>> cheaper way out the beginning of this year and bought a regular PC.
>>>>
>>>> Joyce Kane
>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/18/2011 4:50:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> Terry.Powers at nih.gov writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a Mac?
>>>> I am looking for someone that can tell me how it compairs to using
>>>> Jaws.
>>>> A friend of mine, suggested looking into getting a Mac. The speach is
>>>> built in. No wories about updating Jaws.
>>>> I will be at work until about 5:00.
>>>> My home number is 301-916-8549
>>>> Any help would be great. My sighted friend has a mac and hopefully we
>>>> can
>>>> activate the voice on his, to see what it is like.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Theresa L. Powers (Terry)
>>>> Grants Clerk
>>>> Tobacco Control Research Branch
>>>> NIH/NCI/DCCPS/BRP/TCRB/DEAS
>>>> 6130 Executive Blvd, MSC 7337
>>>> EPN 4039B
>>>> Bethesda, MD 20892-7337
>>>>
>>>> Rockville, MD 20852-7337 (express mail)
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 301-496-8584
>>>> FAX: 301-496-8675
>>>> E-mail: terry.powers at nih.gov<mailto:terry.powers at nih.gov>
>>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:22:35 -0500
>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>> Message-ID:
>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098B0D at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Congratulations on figuring it out. Some items are created in a
>> circlular
>
>> form, like the tree. Some can form a square or a rectangle, some can be
>> even be formed into shapes, such as a heart. Some items, such as our sun
>> catcher, are created, on a circular foundation, but you create a flat
>> item
>
>> that looks like a flower, to me. You will find that it is a very
>> creative
>
>> craft. The snow flakes, I have learned to make, are round, but flat and
>> have tecture, because I use different sized paddle beads.
>> Hope this all makes sence.
>> Terry P.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:17 PM
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>
>> Hello Terry, Joyce and Theresa,
>>
>> I wanted to let all of you know that I have figured out what was wrong!
>> It
>
>> was very simple and demonstrates how just missing a word or two in a
>> class
>
>> can totally create confusion.
>>
>> What we missed was this: "after you have finished attaching the pins on
>> row one, connect the wires to form a ring. Likewise, when you have
>> finished row two, connect the ends of that wire as well to form a ring,
>> before continuing with row 3."
>>
>> Instead we had the entire tree all three rows of it laid out flat! Once
>> we
>
>> connected our wires into a circle on rows one and two, it was easy to
>> understand how we could start at the marker pin on row three, because now
>> we were going in a circle and would eventually come round to the other
>> end
>
>> of the wire.
>>
>> So we have finished redoing the tree and found a few mistakes along the
>> way, (one extra bead, and one wrong sized bead) but we have learned a lot
>> in the process and are much quicker at working with the beads and wire
>> now. also, it is soo much easier to work with the pins in a circle rather
>> then out flat!
>>
>>
>> Thank you all for your explanations, we apologize for not catching that
>> crucial detail of the process.
>>
>> Ohio and husband.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>> Terry
>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:55 AM
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>
>> Ohio;
>> I think I know what your problem is!
>> Your connection, or twist of your wire on row 2 is not in the same place
>> as it is on row three. From what you are saying, the two connections are
>> about
>> 7 pins from each other. That is why we are using the marker pin, so we
>> will know where to start the next row, so the ornament patern will fall
>> in
>
>> to place. If you have enough pins on each row and they altrinate, like I
>> described in my other e-mail, I think you have it right. There are extra
>> C pins for future rows.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Theresa Taylor [mailto:tct71887 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:02 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>
>> Ohio,
>>
>> lol...that was actually Ken. I don't have enough hearing for the regular
>> phone.
>> Terry is correct. You start at that marked C pin and then you will end
>> with a bead right next to it. It is the same amount of pins from the top
>> no matter where you start. The only reason we start there is to keep that
>> pattern going that Terry so nicely described.
>> HOpe this helps and feel free to call back.
>> Theresa
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Ohio Gardener wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Just wanted to let you all know that I called Bolek today and they
>>> were happy to send me the beads missing from my kit free of charge or
>> shipping.
>>> They said they will send them right out, so I will be good to go.
>>>
>>> Today my husband and I worked on row three of the pins. It was
>>> puzzling to us to find that the directions didn't work out and we
>>> ended up having to adjust the pattern.
>>>
>>> You see what happened was that we had eight pins in row one, and 16 in
>>> row two, then 24 in row three. This made sense to us because row two
>>> had a 1 1 pattern, while row 3 had a 2 and 1 pattern. However, the
>>> perplexity came when the instructions said to begin at the marker pin,
>>> which in our case was seven pins into the row. When we did the pattern
>>> in this way, we ran out of pins in row two to connect with, before we
>>> ran out of c pins. All we could think to do was to start at the
>>> beginning of the row, which enabled us to follow the pattern
>>> correctly. The tree is now looking like a tree, but maybe the color
>> pattern is not quite right.
>>> Another thing we neglected to do until row 3 was completed was to
>>> connect the two ends of row two. Could it be that this was the problem?
>>>
>>> Anyway, If anyone out there can figure out what if anything we are not
>>> understanding, i.e. how we can start in seven pins and still end with
>>> all pins used, please let me know. we will work it over again. I did
>>> talk to Theresa on the phone about this, but I believe I was unable to
>>> explain our puzzlement clearly. I often write better than I speak.
>>>
>>> Also, just as a note from a newbee, I believe I would have preferred
>>> not to have laid the pins out before starting the row. If I'd done the
>>> project alone, it would have been difficult to keep the pins straight
>>> while fooling with the wire, that is even if My cat hadn't been up on
>>> my dining room table, very interested in what we were doing. Taking
>>> them one by one from my bag would have been easier and "safer" for me
>>> I
>> believe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:13 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> How many do you need. I have at least 15, maybe more.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I really liked Terry P's idea of saving extra kits after a project. I
>>> plan to do this, I have a few large stars and colored beads to start
>>> my collection. Thanks for the tip about putting broken beads in the
>>> center of the pin. however, my broken ones were unusable, but I
>>> substituted large stars and hope they will fit into the tree. My other
>>> option is to short a few other E pins, so I can have close to the
>>> amount
>> needed.
>>>
>>> Which option is preferable, larger star substitutes or shorting other
>>> E pins?
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carol
>>> Schnip
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:44 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I To had many of the stars that were broken. But since whe did not
>>> have a lot of the beads I did what I could and put one broken one one
>>> close to where the pin is in the center of the tree. I did have a
>>> pack of beads missing about 15 of the larger star beads and five of
>>> the pins. They are replaceing the missing beads and pins. But if I am
>>> going to make another I think I will gather the beads. That way if I
>>> miss any it will be me to blame. lol Hugs all CarolAnn
>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:01:10 -0500
>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>> To: 'Jean Parker' <radioforever at gmail.com>, 'List for blind crafters
>> and artists' <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] safety pin projects
>> Message-ID:
>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098B0E at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Jean;
>> Depending on Theresa's health, we might be making snow men, in January.
>> We are in the middle of a crystal Christmas tree class. How long will
>> you
>
>> be in the US?
>>
>> Terry Powers
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jean Parker [mailto:radioforever at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:55 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] safety pin projects
>>
>> Hi Theresa and All:
>> Are there going to be any more safety pin classes held this year? I am
>> in
>
>> the US for some time and can attend a class on the phone. I have done
>> quite a few things on my own but it would be so much fun to attend a
>> class!
>>
>> Jean
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:04:10 -0500
>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52,
>> Issue 22
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Tonight is an open chat. We do not have a spacific topic. I do not know
>> what your other question is about. I guess it has something to do with
>> digest or an error message.
>>
>> Terry P.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kendra Schaber [mailto:Baltimore777 at comcast.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:07 PM
>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52,
>> Issue 22
>>
>> Hi all: What was the issue Vol52 Issue 21 about? My computer couldn't
>> handle it for my screen reader to read it. Also, what is going to be this
>> coming Monday's topic on the phone confrence call? I have not heard
>> anything about it. Thank you!
>> Kendra Schaber
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <nfb-krafters-korner-request at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:00 AM
>> Subject: Nfb-krafters-korner Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22
>>
>>
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>>> 1. Re: Bolek and tree kits (Denise Shaible)
>>> 2. Re: craft patterns in .docx format
>>> (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>> 3. Re: Bolek and tree kits (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>> 4. Re: craft patterns in .docx format (Dixie)
>>> 5. Re: craft patterns in .docx format
>>> (Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E])
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:44:12 -0800
>>> From: "Denise Shaible" <denise.shaible at att.net>
>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>> Message-ID: <AC33F43C6008457CB4B73009D3E1AC7E at OwnerPC>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Joyce,
>>>
>>> I'm glad you mentioned the colors. I don't know If I ever had that
>>> many different colored ornaments on my tree. I've had lots of colored
>>> lights but not ornaments. I was thinking the very thing you said. I
>>> mean, just making one or two colors. When I get more practice with
>>> safety pin beading, maybe I'll try that. I'm sure it would look very
>>> nice. It sounds like one can get creative even with a kit.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Denise
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:42 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I will say it is best to finish off by twisting wire tight before
>>> going to next row. It completes the row and gives you more of a
>>> circle shape to followwhen doing the next row. It is easy to pick up
>>> the wrong pin from the previous row. I do know that for sure as I
>>> have made mistakes and instead
>>> of undoing a entire row, I have cut the wire in 2 consecutive rows to
>>> fix
>>> a mistake. I don't advise you doing that until you have more
>>> practice under your belt.
>>>
>>> Now for the starting on #7 pin. It will still be adding the 24 pins
>>> in a
>>> 2 pins and then previous row tthen 1 pin and previous row. It is
>>> starting off on that C pin to just stagger the colored pins into a
>>> different pattern texture. I am saying texture as the pins have the
>>> colored bead coming at different levels on each pin and I am guessing
>>> it does it to shift it up and down as you would put ornaments on a
>>> tree.
>>>
>>> Now as Theresa did say she is reading the pattern the way Bolek has
>>> written it. There is no reason why you can't put them on another
>>> order. That way is your original creation. Just as we said in the
>>> class, it would be good to do it in green and the colored beads. You
>>> can purchase all the things you got in the kit as lights, star, pins,
>>> beads. You just have to purchase the items in the amounts that they
>>> sell the bags and supplies.
>>> So
>>> you
>>> might have to purchase more then you need, but it is always good to
>>> have extra ones on hand.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 4:36:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Just wanted to let you all know that I called Bolek today and they
>>> were happy to send me the beads missing from my kit free of charge or
>>> shipping.
>>> They said they will send them right out, so I will be good to go.
>>>
>>> Today my husband and I worked on row three of the pins. It was
>>> puzzling to us to find that the directions didn't work out and we
>>> ended up having to adjust the pattern.
>>>
>>> You see what happened was that we had eight pins in row one, and 16
>>> in row two, then 24 in row three. This made sense to us because row
>>> two had a 1
>>> 1
>>> pattern, while row 3 had a 2 and 1 pattern. However, the perplexity
>>> came when the instructions said to begin at the marker pin, which in
>>> our case was seven pins into the row. When we did the pattern in this
>>> way, we ran out of pins in row two to connect with, before we ran out
>>> of c pins. All we could think to do was to start at the beginning of
>>> the row, which enabled us to follow the pattern correctly. The tree
>>> is now looking like a tree, but maybe the color pattern is not quite
>>> right.
>>> Another thing we neglected to do until row 3 was completed was to
>>> connect the two ends of row two. Could it be that this was the
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Anyway, If anyone out there can figure out what if anything we are
>>> not understanding, i.e. how we can start in seven pins and still end
>>> with all pins used, please let me know. we will work it over again. I
>>> did talk to Theresa on the phone about this, but I believe I was
>>> unable to explain our puzzlement clearly. I often write better than I
>>> speak.
>>>
>>> Also, just as a note from a newbee, I believe I would have preferred
>>> not to have laid the pins out before starting the row. If I'd done
>>> the project alone, it would have been difficult to keep the pins
>>> straight while fooling with the wire, that is even if My cat hadn't
>>> been up on my dining room table, very interested in what we were
>>> doing. Taking them one by one from my bag would have been easier and
>>> "safer" for me I believe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:13 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> How many do you need. I have at least 15, maybe more.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I really liked Terry P's idea of saving extra kits after a project. I
>>> plan to do this, I have a few large stars and colored beads to start
>>> my collection. Thanks for the tip about putting broken beads in the
>>> center of the pin. however, my broken ones were unusable, but I
>>> substituted large stars and hope they will fit into the tree. My
>>> other option is to short a few other E pins, so I can have close to
>>> the amount needed.
>>>
>>> Which option is preferable, larger star substitutes or shorting other
>>> E pins?
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carol
>>> Schnip
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:44 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> I To had many of the stars that were broken. But since whe did not
>>> have a lot of the beads I did what I could and put one broken one one
>>> close to where the pin is in the center of the tree. I did have a
>>> pack of beads missing about 15 of the larger star beads and five of
>>> the pins. They are replaceing the missing beads and pins. But if I
>>> am going to make another I think I will gather the beads. That way if
>>> I miss any it will be me to blame. lol Hugs all CarolAnn
>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:43:42 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098AF9 at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To
>>> convert something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me
>>> how the program works or how to find it.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That is
>>> very good to know.
>>>
>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>> if you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>> could not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired
>>> last night.
>>> I
>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>> converter and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for
>>> free that is easy to download and install. I was reading my .docx
>>> files within minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It
>>> is not immediately compatible with previous versions of word for
>>> windows unless one downloads a converter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you
>>> know what to do!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:55:14 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Ohio;
>>> I think I know what your problem is!
>>> Your connection, or twist of your wire on row 2 is not in the same
>>> place as it is on row three. From what you are saying, the two
>>> connections are about 7 pins from each other. That is why we are
>>> using the marker pin, so we will know where to start the next row, so
>>> the ornament patern will fall in to place. If you have enough pins on
>>> each row and they altrinate, like I described in my other e-mail, I
>>> think you have it right. There are extra C pins for future rows.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Theresa Taylor [mailto:tct71887 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:02 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>
>>> Ohio,
>>>
>>> lol...that was actually Ken. I don't have enough hearing for the
>>> regular phone.
>>> Terry is correct. You start at that marked C pin and then you will end
>>> with a bead right next to it. It is the same amount of pins from the
>>> top no matter where you start. The only reason we start there is to
>>> keep that pattern going that Terry so nicely described.
>>> HOpe this helps and feel free to call back.
>>> Theresa
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Ohio Gardener wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to let you all know that I called Bolek today and they
>>>> were happy to send me the beads missing from my kit free of charge or
>>>> shipping.
>>>> They said they will send them right out, so I will be good to go.
>>>>
>>>> Today my husband and I worked on row three of the pins. It was
>>>> puzzling to us to find that the directions didn't work out and we
>>>> ended up having to adjust the pattern.
>>>>
>>>> You see what happened was that we had eight pins in row one, and 16
>>>> in row two, then 24 in row three. This made sense to us because row
>>>> two had a 1 1 pattern, while row 3 had a 2 and 1 pattern. However,
>>>> the perplexity came when the instructions said to begin at the marker
>>>> pin, which in our case was seven pins into the row. When we did the
>>>> pattern in this way, we ran out of pins in row two to connect with,
>>>> before we ran out of c pins. All we could think to do was to start at
>>>> the beginning of the row, which enabled us to follow the pattern
>>>> correctly. The tree is now looking like a tree, but maybe the color
>>>> pattern is not quite right.
>>>> Another thing we neglected to do until row 3 was completed was to
>>>> connect the two ends of row two. Could it be that this was the
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, If anyone out there can figure out what if anything we are
>>>> not understanding, i.e. how we can start in seven pins and still end
>>>> with all pins used, please let me know. we will work it over again. I
>>>> did talk to Theresa on the phone about this, but I believe I was
>>>> unable to explain our puzzlement clearly. I often write better than I
>>>> speak.
>>>>
>>>> Also, just as a note from a newbee, I believe I would have preferred
>>>> not to have laid the pins out before starting the row. If I'd done
>>>> the project alone, it would have been difficult to keep the pins
>>>> straight while fooling with the wire, that is even if My cat hadn't
>>>> been up on my dining room table, very interested in what we were
>>>> doing. Taking them one by one from my bag would have been easier and
>>>> "safer" for me I believe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>>> Terry
>>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:13 AM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> How many do you need. I have at least 15, maybe more.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ohio Gardener [mailto:flowersandherbs at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I really liked Terry P's idea of saving extra kits after a project. I
>>>> plan to do this, I have a few large stars and colored beads to start
>>>> my collection. Thanks for the tip about putting broken beads in the
>>>> center of the pin. however, my broken ones were unusable, but I
>>>> substituted large stars and hope they will fit into the tree. My
>>>> other option is to short a few other E pins, so I can have close to
>>>> the amount needed.
>>>>
>>>> Which option is preferable, larger star substitutes or shorting other
>>>> E pins?
>>>>
>>>> Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carol
>>>> Schnip
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:44 PM
>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Bolek and tree kits
>>>>
>>>> I To had many of the stars that were broken. But since whe did not
>>>> have a lot of the beads I did what I could and put one broken one one
>>>> close to where the pin is in the center of the tree. I did have a
>>>> pack of beads missing about 15 of the larger star beads and five of
>>>> the pins. They are replaceing the missing beads and pins. But if I
>>>> am going to make another I think I will gather the beads. That way
>>>> if I miss any it will be me to blame. lol Hugs all CarolAnn
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:08:25 -0500
>>> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID: <00ae01cca5f3$28d70d40$7a8527c0$@sbcglobal.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> If you need something converted send it to me and I will convert it
>>> for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dixie
>>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:44 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To
>>> convert something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me
>>> how the program works or how to find it.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That is
>>> very good to know.
>>>
>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>> if you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>> could not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired
>>> last night.
>>> I
>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>> converter and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for
>>> free that is easy to download and install. I was reading my .docx
>>> files within minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It
>>> is not immediately compatible with previous versions of word for
>>> windows unless one downloads a converter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you
>>> know what to do!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:23:10 -0500
>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <4D33CBF80E0D6040BB226B85E91EA0522543098B00 at NIHMLBX06.nih.gov>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Thanks Dixie. What is your last name and your phone number if you
>>> want, so I can add you to my address book.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>> Terry.powers at nih.gov
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dixie [mailto:blueherons at sbcglobal.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:08 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> If you need something converted send it to me and I will convert it
>>> for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dixie
>>> ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers,
>>> Terry
>>> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:44 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> How is it going to work if I can not open the original file. To
>>> convert something, the file has to be opened. This is not telling me
>>> how the program works or how to find it.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com [mailto:Blindhands at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:11 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] craft patterns in .docx format
>>>
>>> Sorry about the file format. I have Word 2010 on my computer. That is
>>> very good to know.
>>>
>>> Terry P. have them put this converter in your computer at work so then
>>> if you need to open this type of file you will be able to do it.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/17/2011 8:08:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received a couple files from crafters recently in .docx format. I
>>> could not open them and did not know what to do until I was inspired
>>> last night.
>>> I
>>> went to the Microsoft website and put a search in for .docx file
>>> converter and immediately found that Microsoft has a converter for
>>> free that is easy to download and install. I was reading my .docx
>>> files within minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also learned that a .docx file is what word for windows 7 uses. It
>>> is not immediately compatible with previous versions of word for
>>> windows unless one downloads a converter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, for anyone else who has been perplexed by these files, now you
>>> know what to do!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohio
>>>
>>>
>>>
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