[Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts, was, Re: more picture info
slerythema
slerythema at gmail.com
Sun Oct 2 04:02:23 UTC 2011
Denise,
This is a perfect example of what I was referring to as a design element.
I'm sure you will find a way to incorporate raised dots (braille), into your
clay projects.
Cindy S.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Denise Shaible
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:49 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts,
> was,Re: more picture info
>
>
> Well, well. What a discussion I started when I mentioned
> using Braille. I didn't mean as a reading or labeling
> method. That's done for
> practical reasons. I know as a nearly totally blind person,
> I need Braille
> and it interests me as well. When I think of the numerous
> blind children
> who are made illiterate because of whatever reason, it upsets
> me. That's
> for another discussion, though. What I was talking about and
> what other
> people on this list were talkingabout is using Braille as a
> picture or
> design which may or may not represent words or letters. For
> myself, as I
> said in an earlier post, I made Braille crosses on paper and
> while the
> design was made from dots, it was almost like making a mosaic
> where to look
> closely, it looked like Braille dots but to look away, it
> looked like a
> cross. That's all I wanted to say. I think it could be used
> very well on
> any craft but since we're starting to do clay crafts, that was what I
> wondered about. If nobody's tried it, maybe I'll be one to
> do it. Who
> knows?
>
> Regards,
>
> Denise
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slerythema
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:24 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts,
> was,Re: more
> picture info
>
> Lynda,
>
> I did not misunderstand you. That is why I made the statement
> about your philosophy before I said anything. Every artist,
> myself included, is free to decide what they want to use in
> their art and the message that it represents. I have no
> problem with your philosophy.
>
> What I was stating, is that braille can be used in any medium
> and it does not need to be construed as a means of any type
> of written communication. Braille can be seen as simply a
> beautiful texture and this can be a design element even in
> pottery (you wouldn't use it, but anyone could). This is
> where the imagination is not limited by reality.
>
> My first degree is in photography (after switching from
> graphic design but wishing to also pursue drawing further). I
> am well versed in being conscious of the message that I am
> communicating through my art and have participated in several
> juried shows. "Crafting" is simply an extension of my art.
>
> Cindy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
> > Woman
> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 8:48 AM
> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts,
> > was,Re: more picture info
> >
> >
> > Hi cindy,
> > I think you misunderstood what I was talking about or I did not
> > explain it well. Talking about this kind of thing in
> person is good,
> > but typing it in
> > an email leads to confusion and misunderstanding. I was
> discussing my
> > pottery, three dimensional sculptures. I was not even thinking not
> > paper/text art works. The irony here is that for years I have
> > used texts in
> > my works on paper! Most is in German, some Italian.
> >
> > Of course, anything can be used in art in this way. I have created
> > works for years during my summers in Austria and the German
> > language/texts is an
> > important aspect of my works. It is used in fragments, and
> > nothing that can
> > be read entirely. The texts are used as design elements, in
> > layers, just as
> > your student friend used your Braille.
> >
> > These days, Spanish enters into a lot of my titles of
> works, and even
> > my latest solo show title was in Spanish (Primal Garden...la vida
> > luminiscentes). This is because many of the works were
> > created from the
> > imagery I have in my mind of Puerto Rico, where I go every spring.
> >
> > The point here is clearly that we bring to an art work is
> WHO WE ARE
> > as a person. So I bring to all I do, MY SELF. The things
> that engage
> > my imagination and my memories are what I choose to bring to the
> > world through
> > my work. To bring Braille into my work would not be a truth
> > for me, as it
> > is not something that has any special meaning for ME. I would
> > be sharing
> > something that is not of interest to me, personally. And, why
> > would I choose
> > to do that? Art is about truth, and that is not my truth.
> >
> > I have many works that use torn and cut up texts, diary
> pages, journal
> > drawings, and many other kinds of papers. I was not
> > addressing that at all.
> > Anything can be used as a design element. But that
> > "anything" has to be
> > something that rings true to the person creating it.
> >
> > My pottery is based in ancient to medieval ideas and motifs. It
> > focuses on the CLAY itstef and on process.
> > To use any kind of text on it would confuse the viewer and
> > would not be true
> > to my intentions for that work.
> >
> > I was talking about Braille as a means of communication in or on a
> > work of art. To anyone who cannot read it, it is just a
> curiosity and
> > very distracting. It would take the focus of the work to a place
> > that I have no
> > intention of leading the viewer. Art works tak the viewer on
> > a JOURNEY, and
> > if we are successful in the work, we take the viewer to a
> > destination. I
> > don't want the journey of my viewers to be "lost at sea."
> >
> > I don't know if this is clear or not - or helpful.
> > There is a very wide divide between crafts and art, and
> some artists
> > create a bridge between the two. I use craft materials but
> my work is
> > firmly planted on the Art side of the divide.
> >
> > Lynda River Woman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "slerythema" <slerythema at gmail.com>
> > To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 2:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts,
> > was,Re: more
> > picture info
> >
> >
> > > Lynda,
> > >
> > > I am not contesting your personal philosophy, however, your
> > statement,
> > > "the
> > > only thing that
> > > braille would communicate would be to a person who uses
> it." is not
> > > accurate.
> > >
> > > In my graduate creative writing class, I used braille for
> > my comments
> > > that
> > > I
> > > might make in class for each story and placed the sheet
> > with each of the
> > > stories. At the end of class, when we handed back the
> > stories, I would
> > > throw
> > > away my braille copies (printed comments were given back to the
> > > individuals). One of my classmates was also an artist, and
> > she took these
> > > pages of braille and cut them up and used them in her
> > artwork as texture.
> > > She could not read braille and was not interested in what
> > it might say and
> > > it was not placed on the artwork in any "readable" manner.
> > >
> > > Again, I have no problem with your views on text in your
> > artwork, just
> > > don't
> > > limit yourself that letters have to represent words, be
> > legible, or form
> > > anything other than a juxtaposition between positive and
> > negative space.
> > >
> > > Cindy S.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of River
> > >> Woman
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:09 AM
> > >> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts,
> > >> was,Re: more picture info
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> When I was creating a series of large vessels last year I
> > thought of
> > >> putting braille words on my pots - but then I decided not to -
> > >> braille is not at all of interest to me - I use all
> electronics -
> > >> it is a personal choice and I
> > >> decided that putting braille on my pots would be meaningless
> > >> to me, and our
> > >> art reflects who we are personally and braille would not
> > >> reflect me. I
> > >> thought about the idea of communication through art, and the
> > >> only thing that
> > >> braille would communicate would be to a person who uses it. I
> > >> also thought
> > >> about the notion of putting a "sign" of my art - putting any
> > >> kind of words
> > >> in any manner on my vessels would make them didactic, and I
> > >> don't want to
> > >> limit anyone's imagination through use of any words or signs
> > >> on anything I
> > >> do. This is my personal art philosophy - I think about who my
> > >> audience will
> > >> be and how I will communicate to them - signs and words are
> > >> usually really
> > >> "stop signs" to most people. The exact opposite of what I
> > >> want my work to
> > >> do.
> > >>
> > >> With everything we do, we need to consider why we do it,
> > who we are
> > >> doing it for, and what the end goal of it is.
> > >> And, that is when it becomes art - when it expressed ideas and
> > >> concepts.
> > >>
> > >> Lynda River Woman
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Denise Shaible" <denise.shaible at att.net>
> > >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:10 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts,
> > >> was,Re: more
> > >> picture info
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Okay, as usual, I'm a little behind in reading all of
> > the posts I
> > >> > receive from Krafters Korner. I just read this one about using
> > >> Braille in crafts.
> > >> > I was once involved with a ministry with my former church
> > >> in Pompano
> > >> > Beach, FL. We needed to make crafts and send cards and
> > >> letters to those
> > >> > on retreat and I made a cross with full Braille cells. I
> > >> put it on a book
> > >> > mark and another time, I made the cross on post cards and
> > >> wrote a note on
> > >> > the back. People who received these little gifts really
> > >> liked them and
> > >> > were fascinated by them as they had never seen crafts made
> > >> from Braille.
> > >> > I think large Braille dots would make some nice crafts for
> > >> borders, etc.
> > >> > I never got the chance to experiment with this but I think
> > >> it would work.
> > >> > this could be achieved with a slate and styllus. I used a
> > >> Braille writer
> > >> > for the crosses, though.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Denise
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Lindy van der Merwe
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:46 PM
> > >> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > >> > Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Using braille in crafts,
> > >> was,Re: more
> > >> > picture info
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, Terry, I am currently checking out the program to
> > >> figure out what
> > >> > it can do. I have to figure out some of the terms and
> > >> concepts since
> > >> > it has been a long
> > >> > time since I have done these type of calculations.
> > >> > If anybody manages a drawing, please let us know. Even if
> > >> it just prints
> > >> > on
> > >> > a normal printer, I am sure my husband and children will
> > have some
> > >> > comments about my attempts at drawing (grin).
> > >> > Related to the subject of drawing without sight, I have
> > >> actually used
> > >> > braille in the past in some of my crafts. I normally used my
> > >> > Perkins Brailler, for instance, to make a frame around
> > an a5-sized
> > >> piece of paper
> > >> > for a birthday card or for a photo frame. I would sometimes
> > >> use a straight
> > >> > line or a pattern, like the ie-ie- combination, or similar.
> > >> I have also
> > >> > drawn some basic shapes in braille for my children to
> > >> colour or decorate.
> > >> > Lastly I have used braille for texture when folding origami
> > >> boxes, for
> > >> > instance. I would either do the braille myself or use
> > pages of old
> > >> > magazines. Lindy
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
> > >> > To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> > >> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:57 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] more picture info
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Lindi;
> > >> >> If we can get this working, Look at the patern world it
> > >> would open up
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> you. Any one you know in your country or in the US
> > could mail you
> > >> >> diagrams of paterns, shapes... It would open up a new way of
> > >> >> shairing paterns and ideas!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Terry P.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: Lindy van der Merwe [mailto:stephlin at iafrica.com]
> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:23 PM
> > >> >> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] more picture info
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thank you, Joyce.
> > >> >> I find this all very interesting. I find the idea of
> > being able to
> > >> >> draw with a computer program, and as a blind person, quite
> > >> fascinating. I am
> > >> >> sure there are all kinds of uses for such a program, e.g.
> > >> being able to
> > >> >> draw simple shapes/pictures of basic objects, numbers and
> > >> letters for our
> > >> >> children, card making, scrap booking, and of course for
> > >> crafts that may
> > >> >> become more accessible by using such a program, not to
> > mention the
> > >> >> possibilities for blind students and teachers. Here in South
> > >> >> Africa, as in other countries, braille
> > >> printers are quite
> > >> >> expensive for the average blind person and there are only
> > >> a few places
> > >> >> that will do braille embossing; normally it can take a
> > >> long time too, so
> > >> >> there is a waiting period.
> > >> >> So, I would be interested in other ways of making the
> > print into a
> > >> >> tactile format, which will enable one to do a drawing,
> > >> print or emboss,
> > >> >> or whatever, and feel what you have drawn.
> > >> >> I also like the idea of being able to write a line of
> > >> text. I can see
> > >> >> some possibilities for this too.
> > >> >> Lindy
> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> > >> >> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:47 PM
> > >> >> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] more picture info
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> OK I found out what PIAF is. By the way in case
> > anyone wants to
> > >> >>> know P I A F stands for pictures in a flash. The
> machine that
> > >> >>> basically produces this is a heating unit. The price
> > for it is
> > >> >>> $1399 plus $45 shipping. This only can produce black
> and white
> > >> >>> photos. That is what I
> > >> was told by
> > >> >>> a company that sells these babies. Professor Baldwin
> > >> also mentioned
> > >> >>> that the paper used to produce these graphics with this
> > >> cost 80 cents
> > >> >>> per sheet.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> So that is that information for us.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Joyce Kane
> > >> >>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > >> >>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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