[Nfb-krafters-korner] helen Keller quote re deafness vs blindness

Tue Feb 19 20:52:43 UTC 2013

Now you guys can understand how I feel!!!!!
Surprisingly, deaf people can enjoy music, the bass anyway, t hey can feel 
the vibrations thru objects.
I have been hard of hearing all my life, only started losing vision about 
20-25 years ago, if I had a choice...right now, that is hard to say, I have 
enjoyed the visual beauty for several years, that will remain in my memory 
forever, I have never enjoyed/experienced the beauty of some sounds, those I 
wish for a chance to hear.

Barb

Barb
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jill" <jillbilly4 at comcast.net>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] helen Keller quote re deafness vs blindness

> Terry,
> I agree with you about deafness.  I was at an event at the Helen Keller
> festival one year, and a presenter  told us what Helen Keller thought of 
> the
> 2 disabilities.  She said that Helen thought that blindness separated her
> from  things and deafness separated her from people .
> I can definitely understand her thinking.  Helen Keller was truly a
> brilliant person.
>
> Jill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:09 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - creative or 
> crazy
>
> Even though I have never had good sight and my sight is gradually going 
> down
> hill, through out my life, I have always said, I would always rather be
> blind than deaf.
> Sight can be replased with description and fealing, and even hearing, but
> what would we do with out music, voice, the sound of a stream...
>
> Terry P.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henrietta Brewer [mailto:gary.brewer at comcast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:55 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - creative or 
> crazy
>
> This whole thing began because of our discussion of the new camera system
> for people with rp. I think we are a special group. the eye condition
> effects more about us then just our vision.
>
> Have you ever met a person with RP who isn't creative? I don't think I 
> have.
>
>
> About the dreaming. It will come back vividly after the change of life
> begins. So just wait patiently. lol Henrieta On Feb 17, 2013, at 10:47 AM,
> Deidre Muccio wrote:
>
>> Linda and others
>> There has been a lot written about this type of phenomenon in those
>> who have lost their sight. With RP, I too have been through a lot of
>> this. At this point, the longer I have been without even a scrap of
>> vision, the more bland my dreams and other mental states reflect
>> anything resembling what I used to see. On the other hand, the senses
>> overlap, so with everything I hear or touch, it's as if I am seeing
>> it; it gets mapped out, perhaps even more practically than with
>> vision. Only thing is that the silent views of a dancer or actress on
>> stage, or mountain peaks in the distance, will forever be lost on me,
>> whereas I may be the only one who perceives the crackle in distant grass
> or a dog bark miles away.
>> Things all around us make an impression. You can't imagine
> how often
>> I have had to tell people "I am conscious" in response to their
>> screaming out "stop, "there is a curb coming up" as they see me
>> briskly trucking up the street.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
>> Woman
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:18 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT
>> dreams
>>
>> we are all a little crazy, I think.
>> Yes, my brain puts on little shows for me, too.
>> I might be sitting at a table with other people, and I will ahve to
>> close my eyes for awhile because I am not seeing the people at all,
>> but I am watching animations of scenes and people - that has nothing
>> to do with where I am or who I am with. I see like this a lot - my
>> brain shows me little video type of glimpses of moments of animated
>> characters all the time. Who could ever understand that if I spoke it
> around someone who does not have sight loss?
>> Yes, they would think for sure, I am brain damaged, too. well, sort
>> of.  lol My brain sees just fine, it is the connection from my eyes to
>> the brain that has passed away - the optic nerve.
>>
>> I cannot imagine how you played the piano like that - you have to have
>> a photographic mind.  I have trouble remembering the line I am on in
>> my knitting pattern.
>>
>> OK, back to my sock now. Have a fun day!
>> Lynda
>>
>> Lynda Lambert
>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> Village of Wurtemburg, PA 16117
>>
>> Visit my Web Site at:  http://lyndalambert.com Visit my Blog at:
>> http://www.walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com
>>
>> www.lyndalambert.com
>> www.walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT
>> dreams
>>
>>
>>> Hi Linda,
>>>
>>> I totally get what you are talking about with being able to resolve
>>> problems in your dreams.  I too have figured out problems with
>>> patterns and math problems in my sleep.  When I was writing computer
>>> code, I could find the
>>> errors in my code while I slept.    Despite being visually impaired all
> of
>>> my life I am a visual learner.  When I could see enough to read piano
>>> music with a magnifier, I would memorize note by note for the right
>>> hand, and then note by note for the left hand.  Once I had that line
>>> memorized and could play the 2 hands together, I'd move on to the
>>> next line.  If at any point in the future I got stuck in the middle
>>> of a piece, I could recall that measure or line in my head and
>>> re-learn that part.
>>>
>>> Now that I no longer have color perception and a very limited spotted
>>> field of vision, my brain thinks it sees things.  I often have to
>>> keep my eyes closed to make my brain concentrate on what my other
>>> senses are taking in.
>>>
>>> I have definite ideas, thoughts and feelings about color and how and
>>> when to use color.  After being in a room I get a feeling of what
>>> color it should be.  This drives my family crazy.  Sometimes this
>>> drives me crazy too.
>>> For
>>> example, I have a coat that is black and I have to constantly remind
>>> myself of that.  When I touch it my brain imagines that it is
>>> burgundy with a lot of red in it.  Kind of like a stage curtain.
>>>
>>> As much as I love color, I get frustrated with incorporating multiple
>>> colors into my crafts.  I try to put colors together based on other
>>> people's descriptions.  I hate when I have a finished project and
>>> someone asks me why did I put those colors together, or says, that is
>>> an interesting mix of colors.  I've limited myself to solid colored
>>> projects that incorporate texture.  I'm giving a serious look at the
>>> various yarns that have very long lengths of color that make stripes
>>> without the hassle of having to weave in the ends.  Another reason
>>> why I run away from changing colors in a project.
>>>
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of River Woman
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:40 AM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>>>
>>> OMG, Joyce, you are a BIG DREAMER - who are you kidding?  I mean,
>>> let's just expand the idea of what a dream is - you are a wide awake,
>>> walking, living dreamer.
>>>
>>> I dream constantly - all I have to do is close my eyes, and in
>>> moments I am off to places and situations. My dreams are always full
>>> of DRAMA...never the kind of dreams that you want to close your eyes
>>> and go back to sleep and try to resurrect.
>>>
>>> But, have any of you every been wrestling with a craft or art problem
>>> you could not solve? And, then, in a dream, you see yourself doing it
>>> and you wake up knowing exactly how to do something you never did
>>> before? I sure have.  I have figured out knitting problems in m
>>> sleep, and I even learned math concepts that I had a hard time with,
>>> in my dream. (I learned how to do "slope" in algebra that way, when
>>> my conscious mind could not "get it."
>>> I dream for ideas - sometimes I wake up and write down things I am
>>> seeing in my dreams - poems come that way to me at times.
>>>
>>> I think we have such a creative mind, all of us, that dreams are a
>>> continuation of our creative self.
>>>
>>> Lynda
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:05 AM
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>>>
>>>
>>>> When I first lost my sight 15 years ago I did not dream.  It took a
>>>> bit more then 2 years before I started to dream once again.
>>>>
>>>> I felt, looking back,  that it must have been due to   concentrating so
>>>> much on minute to minute, day to day.  I couldn't think  about the
>>>> future as I didn't have any idea what future I would have or how it
>>>> would be.
>>>>
>>>> Well dreams came and started with familiar thoughts and surroundings
>>>> to begin with.
>>>>
>>>> Then it seemed to be stuck when I worked in the hospital and
>>>> doctor's office before I went in for my surgery and woke up blind.
>>>>
>>>> Dreams and ideas are back from time to time.
>>>>
>>>> Henrietta, I will tell you this between the steroid medication,
>>>> inhalers and occasional Advil, that leaves me wide open for some
>>>> weird and funny dreams.
>>>>
>>
>>
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