[Nfb-krafters-korner] helen Keller quote re deafness vs blindness
jill
jillbilly4 at comcast.net
Tue Feb 19 20:25:32 UTC 2013
Terry,
I agree with you about deafness. I was at an event at the Helen Keller
festival one year, and a presenter told us what Helen Keller thought of the
2 disabilities. She said that Helen thought that blindness separated her
from things and deafness separated her from people .
I can definitely understand her thinking. Helen Keller was truly a
brilliant person.
Jill
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From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:09 PM
To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - creative or crazy
Even though I have never had good sight and my sight is gradually going down
hill, through out my life, I have always said, I would always rather be
blind than deaf.
Sight can be replased with description and fealing, and even hearing, but
what would we do with out music, voice, the sound of a stream...
Terry P.
-----Original Message-----
From: Henrietta Brewer [mailto:gary.brewer at comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:55 PM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - creative or crazy
This whole thing began because of our discussion of the new camera system
for people with rp. I think we are a special group. the eye condition
effects more about us then just our vision.
Have you ever met a person with RP who isn't creative? I don't think I have.
About the dreaming. It will come back vividly after the change of life
begins. So just wait patiently. lol Henrieta On Feb 17, 2013, at 10:47 AM,
Deidre Muccio wrote:
> Linda and others
> There has been a lot written about this type of phenomenon in those
> who have lost their sight. With RP, I too have been through a lot of
> this. At this point, the longer I have been without even a scrap of
> vision, the more bland my dreams and other mental states reflect
> anything resembling what I used to see. On the other hand, the senses
> overlap, so with everything I hear or touch, it's as if I am seeing
> it; it gets mapped out, perhaps even more practically than with
> vision. Only thing is that the silent views of a dancer or actress on
> stage, or mountain peaks in the distance, will forever be lost on me,
> whereas I may be the only one who perceives the crackle in distant grass
or a dog bark miles away.
> Things all around us make an impression. You can't imagine
how often
> I have had to tell people "I am conscious" in response to their
> screaming out "stop, "there is a curb coming up" as they see me
> briskly trucking up the street.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
> Woman
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:18 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT
> dreams
>
> we are all a little crazy, I think.
> Yes, my brain puts on little shows for me, too.
> I might be sitting at a table with other people, and I will ahve to
> close my eyes for awhile because I am not seeing the people at all,
> but I am watching animations of scenes and people - that has nothing
> to do with where I am or who I am with. I see like this a lot - my
> brain shows me little video type of glimpses of moments of animated
> characters all the time. Who could ever understand that if I spoke it
around someone who does not have sight loss?
> Yes, they would think for sure, I am brain damaged, too. well, sort
> of. lol My brain sees just fine, it is the connection from my eyes to
> the brain that has passed away - the optic nerve.
>
> I cannot imagine how you played the piano like that - you have to have
> a photographic mind. I have trouble remembering the line I am on in
> my knitting pattern.
>
> OK, back to my sock now. Have a fun day!
> Lynda
>
> Lynda Lambert
> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> Village of Wurtemburg, PA 16117
>
> Visit my Web Site at: http://lyndalambert.com Visit my Blog at:
> http://www.walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT
> dreams
>
>
>> Hi Linda,
>>
>> I totally get what you are talking about with being able to resolve
>> problems in your dreams. I too have figured out problems with
>> patterns and math problems in my sleep. When I was writing computer
>> code, I could find the
>> errors in my code while I slept. Despite being visually impaired all
of
>> my life I am a visual learner. When I could see enough to read piano
>> music with a magnifier, I would memorize note by note for the right
>> hand, and then note by note for the left hand. Once I had that line
>> memorized and could play the 2 hands together, I'd move on to the
>> next line. If at any point in the future I got stuck in the middle
>> of a piece, I could recall that measure or line in my head and
>> re-learn that part.
>>
>> Now that I no longer have color perception and a very limited spotted
>> field of vision, my brain thinks it sees things. I often have to
>> keep my eyes closed to make my brain concentrate on what my other
>> senses are taking in.
>>
>> I have definite ideas, thoughts and feelings about color and how and
>> when to use color. After being in a room I get a feeling of what
>> color it should be. This drives my family crazy. Sometimes this
>> drives me crazy too.
>> For
>> example, I have a coat that is black and I have to constantly remind
>> myself of that. When I touch it my brain imagines that it is
>> burgundy with a lot of red in it. Kind of like a stage curtain.
>>
>> As much as I love color, I get frustrated with incorporating multiple
>> colors into my crafts. I try to put colors together based on other
>> people's descriptions. I hate when I have a finished project and
>> someone asks me why did I put those colors together, or says, that is
>> an interesting mix of colors. I've limited myself to solid colored
>> projects that incorporate texture. I'm giving a serious look at the
>> various yarns that have very long lengths of color that make stripes
>> without the hassle of having to weave in the ends. Another reason
>> why I run away from changing colors in a project.
>>
>> Annette
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of River Woman
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:40 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>>
>> OMG, Joyce, you are a BIG DREAMER - who are you kidding? I mean,
>> let's just expand the idea of what a dream is - you are a wide awake,
>> walking, living dreamer.
>>
>> I dream constantly - all I have to do is close my eyes, and in
>> moments I am off to places and situations. My dreams are always full
>> of DRAMA...never the kind of dreams that you want to close your eyes
>> and go back to sleep and try to resurrect.
>>
>> But, have any of you every been wrestling with a craft or art problem
>> you could not solve? And, then, in a dream, you see yourself doing it
>> and you wake up knowing exactly how to do something you never did
>> before? I sure have. I have figured out knitting problems in m
>> sleep, and I even learned math concepts that I had a hard time with,
>> in my dream. (I learned how to do "slope" in algebra that way, when
>> my conscious mind could not "get it."
>> I dream for ideas - sometimes I wake up and write down things I am
>> seeing in my dreams - poems come that way to me at times.
>>
>> I think we have such a creative mind, all of us, that dreams are a
>> continuation of our creative self.
>>
>> Lynda
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:05 AM
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>>
>>
>>> When I first lost my sight 15 years ago I did not dream. It took a
>>> bit more then 2 years before I started to dream once again.
>>>
>>> I felt, looking back, that it must have been due to concentrating so
>>> much on minute to minute, day to day. I couldn't think about the
>>> future as I didn't have any idea what future I would have or how it
>>> would be.
>>>
>>> Well dreams came and started with familiar thoughts and surroundings
>>> to begin with.
>>>
>>> Then it seemed to be stuck when I worked in the hospital and
>>> doctor's office before I went in for my surgery and woke up blind.
>>>
>>> Dreams and ideas are back from time to time.
>>>
>>> Henrietta, I will tell you this between the steroid medication,
>>> inhalers and occasional Advil, that leaves me wide open for some
>>> weird and funny dreams.
>>>
>
>
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