[Nfb-krafters-korner] disappointed

Wed Sep 25 02:44:42 UTC 2013

Hi Bran,

You are absolutely right. You, along with everyone else needs to feel
important and that their concerns will be listened to and acted upon by
others when they have been assured that this would happen. I am sorry that
you are feeling so discounted.

Now, I have joined the list in the last few months so I am unaware of your
concerns. So, what exactly would you like to have help with, as far as
crafting is concerned. If it is something I can help you with, I promise
that I will help you. However, in order for that to happen, I will need to
know what you want, when would be a good time for you to get it so that we
can coordinate schedules and what you expect to have at the end of my
assistance. If you would like to contact me off list please feel free to do
so. Or, you can give me a call. My phone number is, 502-637-8435. I am
looking forward to hearing from you.

Paulette

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Brandy W., with Discovery Toys
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:38 PM
To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] disappointed

The 2 times I was jumped on were clearly things that said OT. I'm not saying
the organization is responsible for helping, but I had a lot of trouble in a
couple of classes because I was so new to the craft and instructors offered
to help and never did. 
I didn't come up with the idea someone else did, you asked for help and I
volunteered. I don't care either way was just saying that over follow
through with the members and teachers on this group is sketchy. O and both
classes were supposedly recorded, but 1 I never could get anyone to give me,
and the other never worked. If people are going to say things are done they
need to be done.

I think some new loom knitter classes. Some refreshers for beginners may be
helpful.

It would also help if every time someone posts a concern or feeling you
didn't act so defensive and like it is all their fault and there is no fault
of the organization. No organization is perfect, everyone has room for
improvement. 

But otherwise I'll just keep watching the site.

Bran

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Blindhands at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:55 PM
To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] disappointed

Bran,

If you want to just be on the list that is perfectly Ok and you don't need
to be a paid member to be on this list.  If you want to participate in the
classes that are provided here then you need to be a paid member to do that.
If you want people on this list to help you indivisually that is between you
and that person.  

I think themajority of folks get involved with the classes and help each
other work thru the class.  If you want something special to be taught here
if you ask we usually can get a teacher to teach it in a class if there is a
few  folks interested in learning something.  If you are looking for a one
to  one teacher student thing then that is between you and the person
willing to  spend the time helping just you.  If you attend a class you get
much more  help learning from each other.  Now as far as promoting an idea
such as a  exchange of holiday ornaments, it is up to you to promote your
idea and if you  want to talk to me about promoting an idea like this please
do 
contact me.   Maybe we can get some ideas going on ornament classes, but I
do 
think this is  something that might have been anidea that would have done
better if you brought  this up say in the summer before the Christmas in
August classes to chat it up  on the list and then it is up to you to follow
thru with it.  I do remember  you mentioning this last year in the fall, but
it takes some planning and  organizing way in advanced.  

I am planning classes and approaching folks now to think about classes after
the first of the year.

Now as far.  It is more of a problem when folks are replying to things that
have nothing to do with what is in the subject line. as Off topic  emails,
just put an OT and watch the subject lines.  It is not a problem if  we do
that instead of 

Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com   

In a message dated 9/24/2013 6:43:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ballstobooks at gmail.com writes:

Hi, I'm  right about the time needing to renew, but I'll be honest I hadn't
decided  if I was going to or not because of the amount of people insisting
they  could answer questions, but then when I asked they were rarely
answered.  Then a few people said they would try to help on the phone, and
never  followed through. So as I saw the pumpkin talked about today I
thought about joining for a second year, but I wonder if others found the
same thing? 

People wanted an ornament exchange last year so I  posted the form to the
list, and got 2 replies 1 for someone who was  willing to help organize, and
1 person wanting to participate. The lack of  follow through doesn't make it
where people decide it is worth it.  

I also have been upset with the decisions of who gets in trouble for  off
topic posting. I've twice been scolded for answering an off topic post,  but
when I asked if we could taper the off topic posts I was told I have  a
delete key. This didn't line up. 

So I'll probably try for 1 more,  and I'd be happy to attempt the exchange
of ornaments again if people are  interested, but I think people need to
keep their  commitments.

Bran

-----Original Message-----
From:  Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
Behalf Of Blindhands at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:51  PM
To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner]  disappointed

I am a bit disappointed and don't understand, we have less  paid members for
the NFB Krafters Division this year then we had last year  at the same time.
By the end of this week Krafters Korner will have offered  42 classes this
year and where else can you get that many classes for  $10?  You can't get
one class for ten bucks.  These are special  teachers willing to teach  you
a craft class that are blind or deal  with the blind and know how to put
into words what your hands are suppose  to be doing.

For those of you who have paid your membership dues, I  thank you.  For each
and every one of you it is your job to spread the  word to others about
Krafters Korner, NFB Krafters Division,  _www.KraftersKorner.org_
(http://www.KraftersKorner.org) 

The more  people you talk to and tell, the more people we will have for
members to  share, teach and learn crafting from.

If you have an NFB Convention in  your state why don't you consider giving
an NFB Krafters Division  membership away as a door prize?

The more paid members we have,  ,  the more different type of  crafting
experience will be here and more  classes for everyone to learn from  more
teachers willing to  teach.

Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
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