[Nfb-krafters-korner] disappointed

River Woman riverwoman at zoominternet.net
Wed Sep 25 13:43:42 UTC 2013 

As for the lower memberships currently, that is the normal condition of any 
organization. There is an ebb and flow of membership because there is an ebb 
and flow of intrests of the members. If you look at the classes offered a 
few years ago, and you compare them to the last year, you will see a very 
different picture. Teachers ebb and flow, too. Some of the ones who were 
prominent and were very involved then, are gone or are well into the 
background now. Things change in people's lives and interests change, so it 
is only natural.

As to the one-on-one help, I think it is always there.  I have taught clay 
classes a couple of times, and have conducted a clay discussion, as well as 
a quiltmaking discussion in the past. I know that personally, I had members 
call me on the phone and send me email with their questions and things they 
wanted to know in addition to what we did in classes.  Beyond the classes, I 
even provided members with very clear step-by-step instructions for projects 
in clay several times. I know that others do this, too. All I can add is 
that if you really want the help, I am SURE it is here. But if you have not 
been clear in asking, then the ones who are quilting to help cannot know 
what you need.

Any time I have asked a question here, it has been answered or attempted to 
be answered by people.

I am not so active any longer because I hav other projects that occupy my 
days and for now, I cannot do more here. But, I very often jump in and give 
information if I have it to give on something.  This is a really great group 
of people who love doing creative things and sharing information. Don't give 
up on them! Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] disappointed


> Bran,
>
> If you want to just be on the list that is perfectly Ok and you don't need
> to be a paid member to be on this list.  If you want to participate in the
> classes that are provided here then you need to be a paid member to do
> that.  If you want people on this list to help you indivisually that is
> between you and that person.
>
> I think themajority of folks get involved with the classes and help each
> other work thru the class.  If you want something special to be taught 
> here
> if you ask we usually can get a teacher to teach it in a class if there is 
> a
> few  folks interested in learning something.  If you are looking for a one
> to  one teacher student thing then that is between you and the person
> willing to  spend the time helping just you.  If you attend a class you 
> get much
> more  help learning from each other.  Now as far as promoting an idea such 
> as
> a  exchange of holiday ornaments, it is up to you to promote your idea and
> if you  want to talk to me about promoting an idea like this please do
> contact me.   Maybe we can get some ideas going on ornament classes, but I 
> do
> think this is  something that might have been anidea that would have done
> better if you brought  this up say in the summer before the Christmas in 
> August
> classes to chat it up  on the list and then it is up to you to follow thru
> with it.  I do remember  you mentioning this last year in the fall, but it
> takes some planning and  organizing way in advanced.
>
> I am planning classes and approaching folks now to think about classes
> after the first of the year.
>
> Now as far.  It is more of a problem when folks are replying to things
> that have nothing to do with what is in the subject line. as Off topic 
> emails,
> just put an OT and watch the subject lines.  It is not a problem if  we do
> that instead of
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated 9/24/2013 6:43:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> ballstobooks at gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi, I'm  right about the time needing to renew, but I'll be honest I 
> hadn't
> decided  if I was going to or not because of the amount of people 
> insisting
> they  could answer questions, but then when I asked they were rarely
> answered.  Then a few people said they would try to help on the phone, and
> never  followed through. So as I saw the pumpkin talked about today I
> thought
> about joining for a second year, but I wonder if others found the  same
> thing?
>
> People wanted an ornament exchange last year so I  posted the form to the
> list, and got 2 replies 1 for someone who was  willing to help organize, 
> and
> 1 person wanting to participate. The lack of  follow through doesn't make 
> it
> where people decide it is worth it.
>
> I also have been upset with the decisions of who gets in trouble for  off
> topic posting. I've twice been scolded for answering an off topic post, 
> but
> when I asked if we could taper the off topic posts I was told I have  a
> delete key. This didn't line up.
>
> So I'll probably try for 1 more,  and I'd be happy to attempt the exchange
> of
> ornaments again if people are  interested, but I think people need to keep
> their  commitments.
>
> Bran
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Blindhands at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:51  PM
> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner]  disappointed
>
> I am a bit disappointed and don't understand, we have less  paid members 
> for
> the NFB Krafters Division this year then we had last year  at the same 
> time.
> By the end of this week Krafters Korner will have offered  42 classes this
> year and where else can you get that many classes for  $10?  You can't get
> one class for ten bucks.  These are special  teachers willing to teach 
> you
> a
> craft class that are blind or deal  with the blind and know how to put 
> into
> words what your hands are suppose  to be doing.
>
> For those of you who have paid your membership dues, I  thank you.  For 
> each
> and every one of you it is your job to spread the  word to others about
> Krafters Korner, NFB Krafters Division,  _www.KraftersKorner.org_
> (http://www.KraftersKorner.org)
>
> The more  people you talk to and tell, the more people we will have for
> members to  share, teach and learn crafting from.
>
> If you have an NFB Convention in  your state why don't you consider giving
> an
> NFB Krafters Division  membership away as a door prize?
>
> The more paid members we have,  ,  the more different type of  crafting
> experience will be here and more  classes for everyone to learn from  more
> teachers willing to  teach.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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