[Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here

Sun Feb 23 15:26:22 UTC 2014

HI the recordings do come in very handy though especially in my case, I am likely to have breakup and drop outs and being able to listen to a recording after a class is invaluable.  I don’t think they should be sold, as such but perhaps with a teachers permission they could be made available to someone who might like to take a phone class but is unable to due to time zone differences or bad connectivity etc.  Anyway that’s just some thoughts.
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Maria  

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On 23 Feb 2014, at 3:32 pm, slery <slerythema at gmail.com> wrote:

> Man, I know I am behind in emails, but had no idea the discussion about dues
> ever came from a discussion of resources on our website. From what I saw,
> the mention of classes only came from a justification for raising dues. We
> all know how much we get out of our classes and they are "worth" far more
> than what we actually pay for them.
> 
> You can rest assure that there will be no selling of recordings from a
> general class. Something special would have to be set up in order to have
> recordings that would be worth selling, I know I wouldn't want to pay for a
> recording to have to listen to class participants. If there were recordings
> that were made in a teacher/student format it would have to be with a
> pretend student to make it into a comprehensive recording worth selling.
> 
> To my knowledge, no one is making recordings to sell. What teachers do
> outside of our division or class setting has nothing to do with us.
> 
> I really hope this discussion of recordings is dropped. The members of this
> division voted some time ago not to have recordings. Teachers conduct their
> classes as they see appropriate. If you take class materials that are not
> your intellectual property and make money without legal written permission
> of the person that created it, you can be sued for damages by the person
> that created the material. 
> 
> Happily done to 2736 unread messages on this list (don't ask, it was a
> gmail filtering snafu).
> Cindy S.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-
>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:14 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here
>> 
>> Joyce,
>> good points. I wondered that too. I think that when someone suggested
>> raising dues to pay for membership and other expenses, others jumped in
>> about classes. Good points; the classes aren't recorded and plans are not
> in
>> place to do so.
>> 
>> I guess people got over speculative and hopeful past classes would be
>> recorded and sold. Personally, I don't think it’s a good idea. Do record
> it for
>> those in the class so they can review it or if they miss a phone call,
> they can
>> catch up. That's my suggestion; but I don't think it’s a good idea to
> record
>> and sell phone calls. I know I speak more freely when things aren't
> recorded
>> and to record you'd need all participant's permision which I doubt all
> will
>> agree to.
>> 
>> Anyway, good luck fundraising.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:44 PM
>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here
>> 
>> I want to ask how a conversation went from talking about a list of
> reference
>> material posted on the Krafters Korner website  got to changing the price
>> and classification of membership and prices of classes?
>> 
>> Let me say I  didn't know anything about this and I haven't been  online
> over
>> the weekend and Ithink folks are talking about this and it comes  down to
> as
>> things stand right now recordings, patterns and information on pass
> classes
>> are not available to people unless they took the class and saved that
>> information themselves.  It is not available for sale or anyone.
>> 
>> We have spoken about in the future doing something with classes, but
> until
>> it is figured out by the board and people are in place to edit
> recordings, and
>> agreements are made with everyone involved this is not even being
>> considered at  this time.  When it is considered it will have nothing to
> do
>> with what has  been done in the past.
>> 
>> Right now I need all of you to help figure out how to pay our expenses
> and
>> that is a tough one since we don't have any idea how much our expenses
>> will be  until we have a year under our belts.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joyce  Kane
>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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