[Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here

Sun Feb 23 23:35:38 UTC 2014

Not only the teacher but the students would have to give permission. Probably if you can try to get on the classes you would be entitled to the recording. Not probably, that is how it works right now. 

We see how it is a problem to you but when this was brought up before all kinds of wars began. lol
Henrietta
On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman wrote:

> HI the recordings do come in very handy though especially in my case, I am likely to have breakup and drop outs and being able to listen to a recording after a class is invaluable.  I don’t think they should be sold, as such but perhaps with a teachers permission they could be made available to someone who might like to take a phone class but is unable to due to time zone differences or bad connectivity etc.  Anyway that’s just some thoughts.
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> On 23 Feb 2014, at 3:32 pm, slery <slerythema at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Man, I know I am behind in emails, but had no idea the discussion about dues
>> ever came from a discussion of resources on our website. From what I saw,
>> the mention of classes only came from a justification for raising dues. We
>> all know how much we get out of our classes and they are "worth" far more
>> than what we actually pay for them.
>> 
>> You can rest assure that there will be no selling of recordings from a
>> general class. Something special would have to be set up in order to have
>> recordings that would be worth selling, I know I wouldn't want to pay for a
>> recording to have to listen to class participants. If there were recordings
>> that were made in a teacher/student format it would have to be with a
>> pretend student to make it into a comprehensive recording worth selling.
>> 
>> To my knowledge, no one is making recordings to sell. What teachers do
>> outside of our division or class setting has nothing to do with us.
>> 
>> I really hope this discussion of recordings is dropped. The members of this
>> division voted some time ago not to have recordings. Teachers conduct their
>> classes as they see appropriate. If you take class materials that are not
>> your intellectual property and make money without legal written permission
>> of the person that created it, you can be sued for damages by the person
>> that created the material. 
>> 
>> Happily done to 2736 unread messages on this list (don't ask, it was a
>> gmail filtering snafu).
>> Cindy S.
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-
>>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:14 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here
>>> 
>>> Joyce,
>>> good points. I wondered that too. I think that when someone suggested
>>> raising dues to pay for membership and other expenses, others jumped in
>>> about classes. Good points; the classes aren't recorded and plans are not
>> in
>>> place to do so.
>>> 
>>> I guess people got over speculative and hopeful past classes would be
>>> recorded and sold. Personally, I don't think it’s a good idea. Do record
>> it for
>>> those in the class so they can review it or if they miss a phone call,
>> they can
>>> catch up. That's my suggestion; but I don't think it’s a good idea to
>> record
>>> and sell phone calls. I know I speak more freely when things aren't
>> recorded
>>> and to record you'd need all participant's permision which I doubt all
>> will
>>> agree to.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, good luck fundraising.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Blindhands at aol.com
>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:44 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here
>>> 
>>> I want to ask how a conversation went from talking about a list of
>> reference
>>> material posted on the Krafters Korner website  got to changing the price
>>> and classification of membership and prices of classes?
>>> 
>>> Let me say I  didn't know anything about this and I haven't been  online
>> over
>>> the weekend and Ithink folks are talking about this and it comes  down to
>> as
>>> things stand right now recordings, patterns and information on pass
>> classes
>>> are not available to people unless they took the class and saved that
>>> information themselves.  It is not available for sale or anyone.
>>> 
>>> We have spoken about in the future doing something with classes, but
>> until
>>> it is figured out by the board and people are in place to edit
>> recordings, and
>>> agreements are made with everyone involved this is not even being
>>> considered at  this time.  When it is considered it will have nothing to
>> do
>>> with what has  been done in the past.
>>> 
>>> Right now I need all of you to help figure out how to pay our expenses
>> and
>>> that is a tough one since we don't have any idea how much our expenses
>>> will be  until we have a year under our belts.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joyce  Kane
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