[Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here

Tue Feb 25 05:41:26 UTC 2014

Hi Maria, I drafted the below post this morning, we must have been on a
similar mind thought, anyway, now I've read your post, I'll send the below
in, just it is just an idea. Valerie 

Hi, I was thinking today about the availability of lessons and the recent
discussion of recordings. As an alternative, and this is probably a very
vague, not will thought out idea, but I'll send it along anyway, what if
email classes were available in some sort of format, creating a library of
projects? I know many take advantage of email classes already, but some
classes are close together, so we might choose not take part in an extra
class if that were the case. Also the email classes are clear and concise,
but perhaps added to the actual class instructions, could any extras,
students have brought up during the class be added, no names, just the added
extra info.  Having a library of projects could mean thee classes could be
bought by anyone at any time and students take them at their leisure. I am
not highly techie, but think this would add to funds, and over time the
library would grow. Though we have email classes, creating a library of
these projects in formats suitable, makes them very accessible to a lot of
people, not sure if email classes could be recorded, but that might get
around the privacy issue if teachers were agreeable. I'm new, not really
sure about exactly how things run, so none of this might be appropriate or
workable, so forgive my rambling thoughts. Cheers. Valerie 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of slery
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014 3:03 PM
To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here

Man, I know I am behind in emails, but had no idea the discussion about dues
ever came from a discussion of resources on our website. From what I saw,
the mention of classes only came from a justification for raising dues. We
all know how much we get out of our classes and they are "worth" far more
than what we actually pay for them.

You can rest assure that there will be no selling of recordings from a
general class. Something special would have to be set up in order to have
recordings that would be worth selling, I know I wouldn't want to pay for a
recording to have to listen to class participants. If there were recordings
that were made in a teacher/student format it would have to be with a
pretend student to make it into a comprehensive recording worth selling.

To my knowledge, no one is making recordings to sell. What teachers do
outside of our division or class setting has nothing to do with us.

I really hope this discussion of recordings is dropped. The members of this
division voted some time ago not to have recordings. Teachers conduct their
classes as they see appropriate. If you take class materials that are not
your intellectual property and make money without legal written permission
of the person that created it, you can be sued for damages by the person
that created the material. 

Happily done to 2736 unread messages on this list (don't ask, it was a gmail
filtering snafu).
Cindy S.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:14 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here
> 
> Joyce,
> good points. I wondered that too. I think that when someone suggested
> raising dues to pay for membership and other expenses, others jumped in
> about classes. Good points; the classes aren't recorded and plans are not
in
> place to do so.
> 
> I guess people got over speculative and hopeful past classes would be
> recorded and sold. Personally, I don't think it's a good idea. Do record
it for
> those in the class so they can review it or if they miss a phone call,
they can
> catch up. That's my suggestion; but I don't think it's a good idea to
record
> and sell phone calls. I know I speak more freely when things aren't
recorded
> and to record you'd need all participant's permision which I doubt all
will
> agree to.
> 
> Anyway, good luck fundraising.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:44 PM
> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Comment here
> 
> I want to ask how a conversation went from talking about a list of
reference
> material posted on the Krafters Korner website  got to changing the price
> and classification of membership and prices of classes?
> 
> Let me say I  didn't know anything about this and I haven't been  online
over
> the weekend and Ithink folks are talking about this and it comes  down to
as
> things stand right now recordings, patterns and information on pass
classes
> are not available to people unless they took the class and saved that
> information themselves.  It is not available for sale or anyone.
> 
> We have spoken about in the future doing something with classes, but until
> it is figured out by the board and people are in place to edit recordings,
and
> agreements are made with everyone involved this is not even being
> considered at  this time.  When it is considered it will have nothing to
do
> with what has  been done in the past.
> 
> Right now I need all of you to help figure out how to pay our expenses and
> that is a tough one since we don't have any idea how much our expenses
> will be  until we have a year under our belts.
> 
> 
> 
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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