[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

Sat Jul 2 12:05:40 UTC 2016

Hi Liz,

I think it is probably worth our time and efforts to explore tools like
Skype and Google Hang-Out.  I have used Skype on my PC with JAWS17 within
the past few months and found it to be fairly accessible, although not
perfect.  It has been quite some time since I've used it on my iPhone, so I
cannot confirm that it is still accessible with Voice Over.  Let me be
clear, that I am not talking about Skype for Business as that is far from
accessible.  About 6 months ago I used Google Hang-Out on my iPhone.
Although I needed help getting my account set up, after that I was able to
control the actual video call independently with Voice Over.  I used it to
participate in my friends knitting group during the snow storm last January.
I had wished I had try to set it up on my computer as I could not prop up my
iPhone so that I kept myself in the viewing area of the camera as we were
using the video conference feature.  Everyone was showing off their projects
and asking for opinions on which yarns to use for there next project.  It
was a very nice experience.  

I think looking at these tools are a benefit for opening up access to our
international members.  While the video feature is the widest used aspect of
these tools, I think there is an audio chat as well.  A few of us might
consider doing a test to see how difficult it is to set up and use.  If we
find that it works and it is accessible, then we could do a Monday Night
Chat about it.  The next step would be to do a casual chat using the tool
before we ever consider using it for a class or topic specific chat.  Of
course if we look at these tools and we find that they are not accessible,
then it is not the time to think of how to incorporate them into what we do
here at Krafter's Korner.  

Annette

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Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

Hi Terry, 

You have the right to choose the teaching style that works of you just as
students have choices about taking your classes. 
What about teleconferencing like Skype or Google hangouts? 

Liz

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner
<nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Terry K and All,
> 
> There is nothing wrong with you making a personal decision to only 
> teach telephone classes.  Just as students have their own learning 
> styles, teachers have their own teaching style.  Do what works for you 
> as that will make you the best teacher that you can be.
> 
> I have taught both telephone and e-mail classes.  I like having the 
> option to choose which technique works for how I teach a specific 
> topic.  As a student, I like having the variety of telephone verses e-mail
classes.
> Sometimes an e-mail class fits into my schedule better, and other 
> times I might feel that the best way for me to learn something new is 
> via a phone class.
> 
> I do not get worked up about not being able to take a class.  Maybe 
> there is not a topic being taught that I want to learn, or maybe I 
> just can't fit a class into my schedule.  I am appreciative and 
> thankful for the wide range of knowledge and support that is here at 
> Krafters Korner.  I hope we can keep trying new things so that we can 
> continue to be diverse and inclusive in so many ways.  Who would have 
> thought that we could have a virtual holiday party, but the creative
energy of this group pulled it off.
> 
> Annette
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Terry 
> Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 4:00 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: Terry Knox
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain
> 
> 
> 
> I have to voice my opinion. I know others will not agree, but that is 
> why Beyer's makes many flavors, so bear with me. June was the first 
> time in 8 years I have even taught an email class and I did not like 
> it at all. So for all my past students, Sorry, I will not do it again. 
> I like hearing all those voices behind the class line and getting the 
> feeling that some of you did not understand or get my instructions. I 
> like hearing the comments and other people who give me their opinions 
> or other ideas on how to do it differently. I know after the class I 
> got to speak with new members and hear the voices of those I only 
> speak with on list. I understand this is the new world and most people 
> like this, but I just Do Not. I will teach the market bag by email but 
> reconsidering the little girl purse in August, have not make decision 
> yet. I always follow up my class with written instructions but I 
> personally feel that most people only take the email class to save and 
> file it for later and that becomes a UFO also. Most of you do not 
> realize how much time is taken to write and try to print the lesson 
> with all the turns and twist just to put it on list and have it filed. 
> I believe it is like writing a book, your patterns get put into a 
> shelf and never looked at unless needed. So, if you want to do a craft 
> and I am presenting it you will have to come to class and learn it at 
> that time. I will try to keep my classes to the one to one and one half
hour time and I will try to keep them fun and enjoyable for all, but, sorry,
no more email classes for me.
> 
> Terry Knox
> 
> 
> 
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