[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

Liz masterspanishteacher2306 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 2 13:38:25 UTC 2016 

Hello royce, 

It is indeed true that we can’t please everyone all the time. 
This arrangement seems to a slow everyone choices, which facilitates the learning process. 

Liz

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> We can try both ways of teaching or learning.  We allow the teachers their
> preference.
> 
> If far as the students, they do have their preferences, too.  Not all
> conference call classes may not fit into their schedules, but we can please
> some of the people some of the time, but we can't please all of the people
> all of the time.  That's life.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Dixie via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists' <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dixie <cobaltblueheron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain
> 
> 
> Personally, for my teaching ability, I find I am a better teacher through
> email.
> 
> I have the opportunity to read and reread what I am putting into the class.
> Making sure that my words make sense and teach the technique I am trying to
> get across to my students.
> 
> I found when I taught over the phone I would get flustered and end up
> babbling or get tongue tied.  With the email class I am able to make more
> coherent responses, or at least I think I do.  Only the students can say how
> well they learned from my classes.
> 
> One thing I tried to do was initiate a feedback response from the students.
> At the end of the class I used to send out an evaluation  questionnaire to
> the class asking for feedback.  This was to help me learn what I needed to
> change in my teaching techniques, to help me learn what my students were
> looking for, and what they liked in the classes.
> 
> Unfortunately of the approximately 12 students per class I have been
> averaging, I would maybe receive back 1 or 2 responses to the class
> evaluation questionnaires.
> 
> So the question then is, are the students participating, or just gathering
> the lessons for a more convenient time?
> 
> I don't know.  As a teacher it is important to get the feedback.  Although I
> know that often times as a student in a phone class I have to mute myself
> because of the noise in the house so it doesn't disturb the rest of the
> students in the class.
> In doing that I then am not giving my teacher the feedback she or he
> deserves either.
> 
> 
> Dixie
> @-> ~ <-@
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Liz via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 9:41 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: Liz
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain
> 
> Hi Terry, 
> 
> You have the right to choose the teaching style that works of you just as
> students have choices about taking your classes. 
> What about teleconferencing like Skype or Google hangouts? 
> 
> Liz
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Terry K and All,
>> 
>> There is nothing wrong with you making a personal decision to only 
>> teach telephone classes.  Just as students have their own learning 
>> styles, teachers have their own teaching style.  Do what works for you 
>> as that
> will
>> make you the best teacher that you can be.
>> 
>> I have taught both telephone and e-mail classes.  I like having the 
>> option to choose which technique works for how I teach a specific 
>> topic.  As a student, I like having the variety of telephone verses e-mail
> classes.
>> Sometimes an e-mail class fits into my schedule better, and other 
>> times I might feel that the best way for me to learn something new is 
>> via a phone class.
>> 
>> I do not get worked up about not being able to take a class.  Maybe 
>> there
> is
>> not a topic being taught that I want to learn, or maybe I just can't 
>> fit a class into my schedule.  I am appreciative and thankful for the 
>> wide range of knowledge and support that is here at Krafters Korner.  
>> I hope we can keep trying new things so that we can continue to be 
>> diverse and inclusive in so many ways.  Who would have thought that we 
>> could have a virtual holiday party, but the creative energy of this group
> pulled it off.
>> 
>> Annette
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 4:00 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Cc: Terry Knox
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have to voice my opinion. I know others will not agree, but that is 
>> why Beyer's makes many flavors, so bear with me. June was the first 
>> time in 8 years I have even taught an email class and I did not like 
>> it at all. So
> for
>> all my past students, Sorry, I will not do it again. I like hearing 
>> all those voices behind the class line and getting the feeling that 
>> some of
> you
>> did not understand or get my instructions. I like hearing the comments 
>> and other people who give me their opinions or other ideas on how to 
>> do it differently. I know after the class I got to speak with new 
>> members and
> hear
>> the voices of those I only speak with on list. I understand this is 
>> the
> new
>> world and most people like this, but I just Do Not. I will teach the
> market
>> bag by email but reconsidering the little girl purse in August, have 
>> not make decision yet. I always follow up my class with written 
>> instructions
> but
>> I personally feel that most people only take the email class to save 
>> and file it for later and that becomes a UFO also. Most of you do not 
>> realize how much time is taken to write and try to print the lesson 
>> with all the turns and twist just to put it on list and have it filed. 
>> I believe it is like writing a book, your patterns get put into a 
>> shelf and never looked
> at
>> unless needed. So, if you want to do a craft and I am presenting it 
>> you
> will
>> have to come to class and learn it at that time. I will try to keep my 
>> classes to the one to one and one half hour time and I will try to 
>> keep
> them
>> fun and enjoyable for all, but, sorry, no more email classes for me.
>> 
>> Terry Knox
>> 
>> 
>> 
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