[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Sat Jul 2 23:45:21 UTC 2016


It is NVDA, as in nancy victor, dog, alpha. It is 
nonvisual desktop access.  It is a free screen 
reader.  Some of the commands are similar to JAWS, some are not.

Dave

At 04:53 PM 7/2/2016, you wrote:
>Hi All; What is MDVA? I have heard of it before, 
>and would like to learn more about it please. 
>Thank you. Henry -----Original Message----- 
>From: Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner Sent: 
>Saturday, July 02, 2016 11:05 AM To: 'List for 
>blind crafters and artists' Cc: Nella Foster 
>Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow 
>So I will complain I'm trying to learn NVDA; I'm 
>tired of paying for JAWS upgrades.  If there are 
>other people using NVDA I would love to speak 
>with them. Nella -----Original Message----- 
>From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
>[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Liz via Nfb-krafters-korner Sent: 
>Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:36 AM To: List for 
>blind crafters and artists Cc: Liz Subject: Re: 
>[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will 
>complain HI greg, I’m not sure about Jaws but 
>both work fairly well with NVDA. I have a copy 
>of Jaws 16 or 17, which I can use to test. The 
>last time I used Jaws Skype was fairly 
>accessible. On the iPhone, both are accessible. 
>I currently use a Mac but would of course use 
>NVDA and Jaws to help others here since many 
>don’t use that platform. Hope this answers 
>your question, Liz > On Jul 1, 2016, at 9:46 PM, 
>ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner > 
><nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > 
>Liz, > > Does Jaws work well with Skype and 
>Google Hangouts now? > > Greg > > -----Original 
>Message----- From: Liz via Nfb-krafters-korner > 
>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:40 PM > To: List 
>for blind crafters and artists > Cc: Liz > 
>Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow 
>So I will complain > > Hi Terry, > > You have 
>the right to choose the teaching style that 
>works of you just as > students have choices 
>about taking your classes. > What about 
>teleconferencing like Skype or Google 
>hangouts? > > Liz > >> On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:16 
>PM, Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner >> 
><nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >> Hi 
>Terry K and All, >> >> There is nothing wrong 
>with you making a personal decision to only >> 
>teach telephone classes.  Just as students have 
>their own learning >> styles, teachers have 
>their own teaching style.  Do what works for >> 
>you as that will make you the best teacher that 
>you can be. >> >> I have taught both telephone 
>and e-mail classes.  I like having the >> option 
>to choose which technique works for how I teach 
>a specific >> topic.  As a student, I like 
>having the variety of telephone verses >> e-mail 
>classes. >> Sometimes an e-mail class fits into 
>my schedule better, and other >> times I might 
>feel that the best way for me to learn something 
>new is >> via a phone class. >> >> I do not get 
>worked up about not being able to take a 
>class.  Maybe >> there is not a topic being 
>taught that I want to learn, or maybe I >> just 
>can't fit a class into my schedule.  I am 
>appreciative and >> thankful for the wide range 
>of knowledge and support that is here at >> 
>Krafters Korner.  I hope we can keep trying new 
>things so that we can >> continue to be diverse 
>and inclusive in so many ways.  Who would 
>have >> thought that we could have a virtual 
>holiday party, but the creative >> energy of 
>this group pulled it off. >> >> Annette >> >> >> 
>-----Original Message----- >> From: 
>Nfb-krafters-korner >> 
>[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Terry >> Knox via 
>Nfb-krafters-korner >> Sent: Friday, July 01, 
>2016 4:00 PM >> To: List for blind crafters and 
>artists >> Cc: Terry Knox >> Subject: 
>[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will 
>complain >> >> >> >> I have to voice my opinion. 
>I know others will not agree, but that is >> why 
>Beyer's makes many flavors, so bear with me. 
>June was the first >> time in 8 years I have 
>even taught an email class and I did not like >> 
>it at all. So for all my past students, Sorry, I 
>will not do it >> again. I like hearing all 
>those voices behind the class line and >> 
>getting the feeling that some of you did not 
>understand or get my >> instructions. I like 
>hearing the comments and other people who 
>give >> me their opinions or other ideas on how 
>to do it differently. I know >> after the class 
>I got to speak with new members and hear the 
>voices >> of those I only speak with on list. I 
>understand this is the new >> world and most 
>people like this, but I just Do Not. I will 
>teach the >> market bag by email but 
>reconsidering the little girl purse in >> 
>August, have not make decision yet. I always 
>follow up my class with >> written instructions 
>but I personally feel that most people only 
>take >> the email class to save and file it for 
>later and that becomes a UFO >> also. Most of 
>you do not realize how much time is taken to 
>write and >> try to print the lesson with all 
>the turns and twist just to put it >> on list 
>and have it filed. I believe it is like writing 
>a book, your >> patterns get put into a shelf 
>and never looked at unless needed. So, >> if you 
>want to do a craft and I am presenting it you 
>will have to >> come to class and learn it at 
>that time. I will try to keep my classes to >> 
>the one to one and one half hour time and I will 
>try to keep them fun and >> enjoyable for all, 
>but, sorry, no more email classes for me. >> >> 
>Terry Knox >> >> >> >> 
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