[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

Deborah Armstrong debee at jfcl.com
Sun Jul 3 00:53:00 UTC 2016


I'm  a huge fan of NVDA. Without it my job would be much harder, even though 
I also use JAWS.

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Andrews via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 4:45 PM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

It is NVDA, as in nancy victor, dog, alpha. It is
nonvisual desktop access.  It is a free screen
reader.  Some of the commands are similar to JAWS, some are not.

Dave

At 04:53 PM 7/2/2016, you wrote:
>Hi All; What is MDVA? I have heard of it before, and would like to learn 
>more about it please. Thank you. Henry -----Original Message----- 
>From: Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 
>11:05 AM To: 'List for blind crafters and artists' Cc: Nella Foster 
>Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain I'm 
>trying to learn NVDA; I'm tired of paying for JAWS upgrades.  If there are 
>other people using NVDA I would love to speak with them. 
>Nella -----Original Message----- 
>From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Liz via Nfb-krafters-korner Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:36 
>AM To: List for blind crafters and artists Cc: Liz Subject: Re: 
>[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain HI greg, I’m not 
>sure about Jaws but both work fairly well with NVDA. I have a copy of Jaws 
>16 or 17, which I can use to test. The last time I used Jaws Skype was 
>fairly accessible. On the iPhone, both are accessible. I currently use a 
>Mac but would of course use NVDA and Jaws to help others here since many 
>don’t use that platform. Hope this answers your question, Liz > On Jul 1, 
>2016, at 9:46 PM, ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner > 
><nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Liz, > > Does Jaws work well 
>with Skype and Google Hangouts now? > > Greg > > -----Original Message-----  
>From: Liz via Nfb-krafters-korner > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:40 PM > 
>To: List for blind crafters and artists > Cc: Liz > Subject: Re: 
>[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain > > Hi Terry, > > You 
>have the right to choose the teaching style that works of you just as > 
>students have choices about taking your classes. > What about 
>teleconferencing like Skype or Google hangouts? > > Liz > >> On Jul 1, 
>2016, at 5:16 PM, Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner >> 
><nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >> Hi Terry K and All, >> >> 
>There is nothing wrong with you making a personal decision to only >> teach 
>telephone classes.  Just as students have their own learning >> styles, 
>teachers have their own teaching style.  Do what works for >> you as that 
>will make you the best teacher that you can be. >> >> I have taught both 
>telephone and e-mail classes.  I like having the >> option to choose which 
>technique works for how I teach a specific >> topic.  As a student, I like 
>having the variety of telephone verses >> e-mail classes. >> Sometimes an 
>e-mail class fits into my schedule better, and other >> times I might feel 
>that the best way for me to learn something new is >> via a phone class. >> 
> >> I do not get worked up about not being able to take a class.  Maybe >> 
>there is not a topic being taught that I want to learn, or maybe I >> just 
>can't fit a class into my schedule.  I am appreciative and >> thankful for 
>the wide range of knowledge and support that is here at >> Krafters Korner. 
>I hope we can keep trying new things so that we can >> continue to be 
>diverse and inclusive in so many ways.  Who would have >> thought that we 
>could have a virtual holiday party, but the creative >> energy of this 
>group pulled it off. >> >> Annette >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> 
>From: Nfb-krafters-korner >> 
>[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Terry >> Knox 
>via Nfb-krafters-korner >> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 4:00 PM >> To: List 
>for blind crafters and artists >> Cc: Terry Knox >> Subject: 
>[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain >> >> >> >> I have to 
>voice my opinion. I know others will not agree, but that is >> why Beyer's 
>makes many flavors, so bear with me. June was the first >> time in 8 years 
>I have even taught an email class and I did not like >> it at all. So for 
>all my past students, Sorry, I will not do it >> again. I like hearing all 
>those voices behind the class line and >> getting the feeling that some of 
>you did not understand or get my >> instructions. I like hearing the 
>comments and other people who give >> me their opinions or other ideas on 
>how to do it differently. I know >> after the class I got to speak with new 
>members and hear the voices >> of those I only speak with on list. I 
>understand this is the new >> world and most people like this, but I just 
>Do Not. I will teach the >> market bag by email but reconsidering the 
>little girl purse in >> August, have not make decision yet. I always follow 
>up my class with >> written instructions but I personally feel that most 
>people only take >> the email class to save and file it for later and that 
>becomes a UFO >> also. Most of you do not realize how much time is taken to 
>write and >> try to print the lesson with all the turns and twist just to 
>put it >> on list and have it filed. I believe it is like writing a book, 
>your >> patterns get put into a shelf and never looked at unless needed. 
>So, >> if you want to do a craft and I am presenting it you will have to >> 
>come to class and learn it at that time. I will try to keep my classes to 
> >> the one to one and one half hour time and I will try to keep them fun 
>and >> enjoyable for all, but, sorry, no more email classes for me. >> >> 
>Terry Knox >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >
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